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Re: DOIs in practice

From: Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) <rse@rfc-editor.org>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 11:16:05 -0800
To: public-digipub-ig@w3.org
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SInce we're talking about DOIs...

I am struggling right now with Crossref's display rule changes
(http://blog.crossref.org/2016/09/new-crossref-doi-display-guidelines.html);
my steering committee has _serious_ reservations about forcing people
through a single gateway to get to documents. What we do now is have the
DOI in a urn format, and additionally a URL with the actual target for
our documents. If we switch that to just the one URI that goes through
Crossref, then what's to protect people from being tracked as they go
through Crossref's servers? In countries like Turkey and China, if the
government demands access to the logs to see who is accessing what
material, Crossref would have to comply. Since we have documents that
enable people to rebuild the Internet (and they did, back when Egypt
shut down access to the Internet a few years ago), it's actually a
reasonable concern.

Has this come up in any conversations you all know about?

-Heather

On 11/8/16 8:10 AM, Ivan Herman wrote:
> And a related one:
>
> http://blog.crossref.org/2016/11/urls-and-dois-a-complicated-relationship.html
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>> On 8 Nov 2016, at 17:01, Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
>> <tsiegman@wiley.com <mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>> wrote:
>>
>> And, along the same
>> lines: https://www.w3.org/blog/2016/10/doidona-vs-the-internet/
>>  
>> *Tzviya Siegman*
>> Information Standards Lead
>> Wiley
>> 201-748-6884
>> tsiegman@wiley.com <mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>
>>  
>> *From:* Tim Cole [mailto:t-cole3@illinois.edu] 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2016 10:57 AM
>> *To:* 'W3C Digital Publishing IG'
>> *Subject:* DOIs in practice
>>  
>> Having missed yesterday's call, I apologize if this blog post has
>> already come up, but just in case I thought some might find it
>> interesting:
>>  
>> _http://ws-dl.blogspot.com/2016/11/2016-11-07-linking-to-persistent.html_
>>  
>> As the post describes, even when a user clicks on a DOI, they often
>> end up bookmarking or forwarding the non-DOI link. There are various
>> ways publishers try to mitigate against this, and the post suggests
>> another approach, but at present practice varies widely, so the
>> problem persists (pun intended). 
>>  
>> The blog is one maintained by Michael Nelson's digital library group
>> at Old Dominion University.
>>  
>> Tim Cole
>> University of Illinois at UC
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