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Re: DOIs in practice

From: David Wood <david.wood@ephox.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 09:16:39 +1000
Message-ID: <CABdBTrYgiyeMJehos+FApN0enwpUASpnmjY9CJ8gUrM8E+1Skg@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" <rse@rfc-editor.org>
Cc: W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
I, for one, would be deeply unhappy about embedding Crossref's service as a
mandatory component.

Regards,
Dave
--
David Wood

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 5:16 AM, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) <
rse@rfc-editor.org> wrote:

> SInce we're talking about DOIs...
>
> I am struggling right now with Crossref's display rule changes (
> http://blog.crossref.org/2016/09/new-crossref-doi-display-guidelines.html);
> my steering committee has _serious_ reservations about forcing people
> through a single gateway to get to documents. What we do now is have the
> DOI in a urn format, and additionally a URL with the actual target for our
> documents. If we switch that to just the one URI that goes through
> Crossref, then what's to protect people from being tracked as they go
> through Crossref's servers? In countries like Turkey and China, if the
> government demands access to the logs to see who is accessing what
> material, Crossref would have to comply. Since we have documents that
> enable people to rebuild the Internet (and they did, back when Egypt shut
> down access to the Internet a few years ago), it's actually a reasonable
> concern.
>
> Has this come up in any conversations you all know about?
>
> -Heather
>
>
> On 11/8/16 8:10 AM, Ivan Herman wrote:
>
> And a related one:
>
> http://blog.crossref.org/2016/11/urls-and-dois-a-
> complicated-relationship.html
>
>
> On 8 Nov 2016, at 17:01, Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com>
> wrote:
>
> And, along the same lines: https://www.w3.org/blog/2016/10/doidona-vs-the-
> internet/
>
> *Tzviya Siegman*
> Information Standards Lead
> Wiley
> 201-748-6884
> tsiegman@wiley.com
>
> *From:* Tim Cole [mailto:t-cole3@illinois.edu <t-cole3@illinois.edu>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2016 10:57 AM
> *To:* 'W3C Digital Publishing IG'
> *Subject:* DOIs in practice
>
> Having missed yesterday's call, I apologize if this blog post has already
> come up, but just in case I thought some might find it interesting:
>
> *http://ws-dl.blogspot.com/2016/11/2016-11-07-linking-to-persistent.html
> <http://ws-dl.blogspot.com/2016/11/2016-11-07-linking-to-persistent.html>*
>
> As the post describes, even when a user clicks on a DOI, they often end up
> bookmarking or forwarding the non-DOI link. There are various ways
> publishers try to mitigate against this, and the post suggests another
> approach, but at present practice varies widely, so the problem persists
> (pun intended).
>
> The blog is one maintained by Michael Nelson's digital library group at
> Old Dominion University.
>
> Tim Cole
> University of Illinois at UC
>
>
>
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> Ivan Herman, W3C
> Digital Publishing Technical Lead
> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> mobile: +31-641044153
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