Re: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft

Hi everyone,

I've updated the survey using the comments so far. The link is still
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/

I think we're ready to send this to the guinea pigs.

Best wishes,
Peter.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>
wrote:

>  Looks good. And yes, I'm quite sure we decided to split Q4. Thanks for
> the opportunity to review your notes!
>
> --Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* Peter Krautzberger [mailto:peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 09, 2015 2:25 PM
> *To:* Bill Kasdorf
> *Cc:* Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken; Ivan Herman; W3C Digital Publishing IG
>
> *Subject:* Re: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> Notes from todays TF call below.
>
>
>
> @Bill @Tim I'm not actually sure whether we'd decided to split Q4. It
> seemed that way when cleaning up my notes.
>
>
>
> Thanks again to everyone for their comments!
>
>
>
> Have a good weekend,
>
> Peter.
>
>
>
> * feedback  from IG was good -- thanks everyone!
>
> * Tim: long but it's good
>
>   * Bill: +1
>
> * re Ivan: humanities and social science not explicitly included
>
>   * b/c aligned with common interpretations of "STEM"
>
> * Tim: 30 questions would be better but couldn't find anything worth
> cutting.
>
>
>
> [[going through survey]]
>
> * intro
>
>   * Tim: identify sections
>
>   * me: add note in intro & on every multi-choice that it's desired.
>
> * Tim: q3 before q2?
>
>     * => agreed
>
> * 3 subject areas:
>
>   * add: STEM Education
>
>   * add: Computer Science  (h/t Ivan)
>
>   * add: Other (Library Science, Social Science, humanity) (Please add
> comment!)
>
> * 4 => split
>
>   * "audience" instead of "target audience" (what are you part of / do you
> target)
>
>     * add list of audiences -- h/t Tzviya!
>
>   * "platform do you use / or target to publish
>
>     * print
>
>     * tablet
>
>     * desktop
>
>     * ebooks
>
> * 7 => split
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>   * on the web => on the web and/or web-based platforms [check what Qs can
> use this change]
>
>   * split:
>
>     * do you publish
>
>     * where is that technology at for you?
>
> * 9 -- add parenthetical examples
>
>   * Tim: had different understanding: is it just linking?
>
>      * no: primarily modification/extension/etc.
>
>   * agreement that that focus is ok
>
>   * add parenthetical examples
>
> * 13
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>   * me: add tables (often turned into images)
>
>   * Tim: add webCSV
>
>   * SVG
>
>   * make larger list
>
>      * link to / use 5
>
> * 15
>
>   * add examples: massive collaboration (zooniverse, LHC, polymath)
>
> * 16:
>
>   * turn "None" to "Does not apply / unable (leave a comment!)"
>
> * 17
>
>   * "Add comment" =>  "Please add a comment on tools you use"
>
> * 18:
>
>   * add "office documents" (word processing, spreadhseet documents)
>
>   * add: web platforms (wiki, blogs, source repositories (GItHub,
> BitBucket), specialized repositories (Zenodo, Figshare))
>
> * 21
>
>   * <br> if not why not? Which disadv...
>
> * 23
>
>   * What web and web-related standards ...
>
>   * First item: W3C standards (HTML, CSS, SVG, MathML etc)
>
>   * [peter while making minutes: stress call for adding comments]
>
> * 27. Clarify to something like:
>
>   * Why do you not author in format/tech that you want to read?
>
>   * Why do you not consume in the format people author?
>
> * 32
>
>   * rephrase to something like "What is the state of the art in a11y in
> your subject area?"
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>
> wrote:
>
> The most generic terms are primary ("elementary school" in the US),
> secondary ("high school" in the US), and tertiary ("college" in the US,
> usually meaning both undergraduate and graduate study.
>
> BTW Ivan did you notice that Peter moved the meeting an hour earlier? You
> said that worked for you.
>
> --Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken [mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 10:01 AM
> To: Ivan Herman
> Cc: Peter Krautzberger; W3C Digital Publishing IG
>
> Subject: RE: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft
>
> I am such an American!
>
> I think more universal terms for K12 are primary school and high school.
>
> University (or college) students are also called undergraduate students,
> those studying for Bachelor's degree (yes, that's how it's spelled in
> America). In the US, more often a BA than a BsC.
>
> Graduate Student is a catch-all term for everything after that,  Masters,
> PhD, MD, PsyD, etc.
>
> These categories are just suggestions.
>
> Tzviya
>
> ****************************
> Tzviya Siegman * Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead * John Wiley &
> Sons, Inc.
> 111 River Street, MS 5-02 * Hoboken, NJ 07030-5774 * 201-748-6884 *
> tsiegman@wiley.com
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 9:47 AM
> To: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
> Cc: Peter Krautzberger; W3C Digital Publishing IG
> Subject: Re: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft
>
>
> > On 07 Jan 2015, at 15:35 , Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Excellent work.
> >
> > I recommend linking to the Web Annotations WG instead of the DPUB TF
> >
> > Because some of these questions will be irrelevant to some respondents,
> I recommend making all questions optional.
> >
> > Question 4: target audience. Is there a way we can make this multiple
> choice? Perhaps:
> > K12 students
>
> Except that... "K12" is an Americanism. I had no idea wha that means until
> I began to talk to you guys...
>
>
> > University Students
> > Graduate Students
>
> That again may be unclear outside the US. Actually... I am not even 100%
> sure what it means. I am not a university person but I remember my son was
> talking about "Master student", "PhD student", or "BsC Student". What
> corresponds to what?
>
>
> Ivan
>
> > Researchers
> > Professionals
> > Other
> >
> > Question 7: I think the wording might be a little confusing because we
> are asking both whether existing tech is sufficient and insufficient at
> once. Perhaps, break it into 2 parts. (What) do you use to associate
> additional with your content (multiple choice). Then free-form, do you find
> this sufficient, please explain.
> >
> > Question 9: I am not sure that this question will be clear enough.
> Perhaps, we need to clarify what we mean by re-usable. Re-usable to whom? I
> think this is targeting the publishers in the audience and the question is
> whether the publishers are re-using content chunks.
> >
> > Question 15: Massive collaboration is listed twice
> >
> > Question 17: Do you want respondents to specify which tools are in use?
> Perhaps clarify what you’d like to see in comments.
> >
> > Question 29: I am not sure what you mean by non-web. Is this offline?
> Print?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tzviya
> > ****************************
> > Tzviya Siegman * Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead * John Wiley
> & Sons, Inc.
> > 111 River Street, MS 5-02 * Hoboken, NJ 07030-5774 * 201-748-6884 *
> tsiegman@wiley.com
> >
> > From: Peter Krautzberger [mailto:peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org]
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:55 PM
> > To: W3C Digital Publishing IG
> > Subject: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've finished the first draft of the STEM TF Survey.
> >
> > You can find it at
> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/.
> >
> > Please take a look and post comments here.
> >
> > Best,
> > Peter.
>
>
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> Ivan Herman, W3C
> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> mobile: +31-641044153
> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
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