RE: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft

Looks good. And yes, I'm quite sure we decided to split Q4. Thanks for the opportunity to review your notes!
--Bill

From: Peter Krautzberger [mailto:peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 2:25 PM
To: Bill Kasdorf
Cc: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken; Ivan Herman; W3C Digital Publishing IG
Subject: Re: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft

Hi everyone,

Notes from todays TF call below.

@Bill @Tim I'm not actually sure whether we'd decided to split Q4. It seemed that way when cleaning up my notes.

Thanks again to everyone for their comments!

Have a good weekend,
Peter.

* feedback  from IG was good -- thanks everyone!
* Tim: long but it's good
  * Bill: +1
* re Ivan: humanities and social science not explicitly included
  * b/c aligned with common interpretations of "STEM"
* Tim: 30 questions would be better but couldn't find anything worth cutting.

[[going through survey]]
* intro
  * Tim: identify sections
  * me: add note in intro & on every multi-choice that it's desired.
* Tim: q3 before q2?
    * => agreed
* 3 subject areas:
  * add: STEM Education
  * add: Computer Science  (h/t Ivan)
  * add: Other (Library Science, Social Science, humanity) (Please add comment!)
* 4 => split
  * "audience" instead of "target audience" (what are you part of / do you target)
    * add list of audiences -- h/t Tzviya!
  * "platform do you use / or target to publish
    * print
    * tablet
    * desktop
    * ebooks
* 7 => split
  * on the web => on the web and/or web-based platforms [check what Qs can use this change]
  * split:
    * do you publish
    * where is that technology at for you?
* 9 -- add parenthetical examples
  * Tim: had different understanding: is it just linking?
     * no: primarily modification/extension/etc.
  * agreement that that focus is ok
  * add parenthetical examples
* 13
  * me: add tables (often turned into images)
  * Tim: add webCSV
  * SVG
  * make larger list
     * link to / use 5
* 15
  * add examples: massive collaboration (zooniverse, LHC, polymath)
* 16:
  * turn "None" to "Does not apply / unable (leave a comment!)"
* 17
  * "Add comment" =>  "Please add a comment on tools you use"
* 18:
  * add "office documents" (word processing, spreadhseet documents)
  * add: web platforms (wiki, blogs, source repositories (GItHub, BitBucket), specialized repositories (Zenodo, Figshare))
* 21
  * <br> if not why not? Which disadv...
* 23
  * What web and web-related standards ...
  * First item: W3C standards (HTML, CSS, SVG, MathML etc)
  * [peter while making minutes: stress call for adding comments]
* 27. Clarify to something like:
  * Why do you not author in format/tech that you want to read?
  * Why do you not consume in the format people author?
* 32
  * rephrase to something like "What is the state of the art in a11y in your subject area?"


On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com<mailto:bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>> wrote:
The most generic terms are primary ("elementary school" in the US), secondary ("high school" in the US), and tertiary ("college" in the US, usually meaning both undergraduate and graduate study.

BTW Ivan did you notice that Peter moved the meeting an hour earlier? You said that worked for you.

--Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken [mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 10:01 AM
To: Ivan Herman
Cc: Peter Krautzberger; W3C Digital Publishing IG
Subject: RE: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft

I am such an American!

I think more universal terms for K12 are primary school and high school.

University (or college) students are also called undergraduate students, those studying for Bachelor's degree (yes, that's how it's spelled in America). In the US, more often a BA than a BsC.

Graduate Student is a catch-all term for everything after that,  Masters, PhD, MD, PsyD, etc.

These categories are just suggestions.

Tzviya

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111 River Street, MS 5-02 * Hoboken, NJ 07030-5774 * 201-748-6884<tel:201-748-6884> * tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>


-----Original Message-----
From: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org<mailto:ivan@w3.org>]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 9:47 AM
To: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
Cc: Peter Krautzberger; W3C Digital Publishing IG
Subject: Re: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft


> On 07 Jan 2015, at 15:35 , Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Excellent work.
>
> I recommend linking to the Web Annotations WG instead of the DPUB TF
>
> Because some of these questions will be irrelevant to some respondents, I recommend making all questions optional.
>
> Question 4: target audience. Is there a way we can make this multiple choice? Perhaps:
> K12 students

Except that... "K12" is an Americanism. I had no idea wha that means until I began to talk to you guys...


> University Students
> Graduate Students

That again may be unclear outside the US. Actually... I am not even 100% sure what it means. I am not a university person but I remember my son was talking about "Master student", "PhD student", or "BsC Student". What corresponds to what?


Ivan

> Researchers
> Professionals
> Other
>
> Question 7: I think the wording might be a little confusing because we are asking both whether existing tech is sufficient and insufficient at once. Perhaps, break it into 2 parts. (What) do you use to associate additional with your content (multiple choice). Then free-form, do you find this sufficient, please explain.
>
> Question 9: I am not sure that this question will be clear enough. Perhaps, we need to clarify what we mean by re-usable. Re-usable to whom? I think this is targeting the publishers in the audience and the question is whether the publishers are re-using content chunks.
>
> Question 15: Massive collaboration is listed twice
>
> Question 17: Do you want respondents to specify which tools are in use? Perhaps clarify what you’d like to see in comments.
>
> Question 29: I am not sure what you mean by non-web. Is this offline? Print?
>
> Thanks,
> Tzviya
> ****************************
> Tzviya Siegman * Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead * John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
> 111 River Street, MS 5-02 * Hoboken, NJ 07030-5774 * 201-748-6884 * tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>
>
> From: Peter Krautzberger [mailto:peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org<mailto:peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org>]
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:55 PM
> To: W3C Digital Publishing IG
> Subject: Call for comments from IG: STEM survey first draft
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've finished the first draft of the STEM TF Survey.
>
> You can find it at  https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/.

>
> Please take a look and post comments here.
>
> Best,
> Peter.


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