RE: Footnote discussions

Hey,
not sure about what about footnotes should be defined here, but different
from sidenotes, which may need to be moved up or down in order not to
overlap, in the case of footnotes the difficulty is making sure that the
reference to the footnote is on the same page as the footnote itself. In
edge cases this ends up being rather tricky (for example: 6 footnotes
following oneanother immediately, and the reference being pushed on to the
next page when 3 of the footnotes have been inserted). Should the default
behavior in all these cases be documented, or is it mainly important to
just state that footnotes are a type of element?
On Feb 1, 2015 3:43 PM, "George Kerscher" <kerscher@montana.com> wrote:

> Hi,
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> Great to see footnotes/ endnotes  is of interest to the HTML working
> group. From the HTML5 specs we have:
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> Details
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> In printed documents, the type of tangential content that the aside
> element represents is sometimes formatted as a sidebar or annotation or
> footnote.
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> http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/aside.html
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> However,  there should be three separate elements and having the aside
> for asides and notes for footnotes and endnotes seems right. Of course
> there is work on annotations now that is also in play.
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> David Mcdonalds article sseems close. I would expect that following the
> EPUB 3 usage would be good, but elevating note to an element.
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> Best
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> George
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> *From:* ahby@aptest.com [mailto:ahby@aptest.com] *On Behalf Of *Shane
> McCarron
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 01, 2015 9:45 AM
> *To:* Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
> *Cc:* public-digipub-ig@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Footnote discussions
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> Not that I know of.  David MacDonald has done some early work and has a
> good article about it at http://davidmacd.com/blog/html51-footnotes.html
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> I think our goal in the A11Y Task Force right now is to gather
> requirements and even potential solutions, then get to the formal text for
> the HTML 5.1 recommendation (and potentially a push of a role or roles /
> states / properties into ARIA 1.1).
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> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken <
> tsiegman@wiley.com> wrote:
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> Hi Shane,
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> Is there a working definition of the footnote element? I think it would be
> helpful to have some preliminary discussion on the list about this. If
> there is not a definition, I think we might be able to help with it.
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> Thanks,
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> Tzviya
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> *From:* ahby@aptest.com [mailto:ahby@aptest.com] *On Behalf Of *Shane
> McCarron
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 01, 2015 11:06 AM
> *To:* public-digipub-ig@w3.org
> *Subject:* Footnote discussions
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> The HTML Accessibility Task Force has asked me to try to get input from
> DPub on the introduction of a footnote element (presumably for HTML 5.1).
> This would be in the context of things like requirements, default role,
> etc.  They are looking for this input in the next two weeks.  Is there a
> way we could schedule some time to discuss it?  If, as I assume, that this
> group has opinions.
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> --
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> Shane McCarron
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> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
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> Shane McCarron
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> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
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