[DPUB] 2014-11-03 notes from STEM task force meeting

Hi everyone,

Below are my notes from the TF call today.

This google doc
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DGO1QAoAnlBObSADC85Bd3eH4Up9x8xNGowFLk521bk/edit?usp=sharing>
has
the current list of people we want to send the questionnaire to.

*@everyone* if you have a suggestion to add to that list, please send me a
quick email. Thank you!

*@Ivan* for the questionnaire, is there any W3C technology we could/should
use? (Also, any policies we need to consider?)

Best,
Peter.

# 2014-11-03 STEM task force meeting

On call: Tim Cole, Peter Krautzberger, Bill Kasdorf, Tzviya Siegmann

* Peter: main topic: how to proceed with the questionnaire?
* Peter: the current set of interview notes is here
<https://docs.google.com/a/mathjax.org/document/d/1gssA4sLKRSe-ImlrZy4ZPuWDb99M_0oeh9akUMqDZNQ/edit#>
.
  * Bill: good range of ppl
* Tim: re survey
  * single questionnaire (for pubs / authors/ practitioners) or separate
targeted ones?
* Tim: questions to help gather information from authors & consumers
  * Bill: they are the same users!
* Bill: what to cover?
  * various issues on debate on the TPAC call
    * e.g., do they care about 3D
* Tzviya: what's the goal for today?
  * Peter: figure out how we can turn interviews to questionnaire
  * Tzviya: and survey informs STEM TF activity?
    * Bill: it surfaces issues
    * Tim: and create use cases
* Bill: include: what should they do now vs do in the future?
  * e.g., data issue
    * ppl in stem publishing consider it THE future problem
    * but not yet actively pursuing
  * sharing data
    * ppl like having data shared
    * but ppl don't like sharing
      * Tzviya: maybe an exaggeration?
* Tzviya: what are some questions?
* Bill: we need to ask the right questions (to avoid "I just use PDF")
* Tzviya: in IRC some ideas
    (05:19:14 PM) tzviya: authoring, content types, data (perhaps in the
future), target audiences/platforms
    (05:20:47 PM) tzviya: citations and peer review?
    (05:23:56 PM) TimCole: supporting teaching and classroom?
    (05:24:51 PM) TimCole: supporting research using the article?
  * Peter: what came up:
    * authoring on/for the web
    * peer review
    * transition from PDF / generation of PDF
    * XML vs HTML ("is XML paying off?")
      * Bill: from pubs? [Yes] interesting... they all breathe
* Tim: textbook authors: how are you including other media (that go beyond
PDF)?
* Bill: supporting researchers
  * if a researcher gets an article, what else would they like to get?
* Tzviya: good list but not STEM specific.
* Peter: yes, but the questionnaire probably need a place for this
  * => agreed
* Tim: "in these domains [...] what is missing"
  * Tzviya: make it multiple choice?
    * => agreed
  * and then free form question at end
* Tzviya: e.g., content types
  * "In which of the following subjects do you publish"?
    * "Do you encounter problems these subjects on the OWP /online?"
    * Do you publishg as live content or images? Why?
  * make it easy to use and easy to interpret?
* Peter: how can we get around "it's not in HTML5"?
  * Tzviya: do you author / archive in one format and publish it in another?
  * Bill: is there value in publishing this in a more interop way?
    * e.g., a microscopy image doesn't need more than image
    * but a molecule might need interactive 3D
* Tim: capture disconnect between authoring/using information and how they
put it on the web
  * Tzviya: do you author & archive in the same format that your customers
view it in?  If not, why? / Please explain!
  * Tzviya: thinking of surveymonkey?
    * => agreed
* Bill: ppl will be authors and users
    * "Which formats would you like to get as reader"?
* Tim: ppl will say "I use PDF b/c it works / images work"?
* Tzviya: Wiley will give complex answers
  * e.g., math sometimes MathML, sometimes image, depending on various
factors
* Bill: ppl might not know different formats
* Tim: multiple choice = we want an answer for sure
  * otherwise: have stuff that they might not know open ended / optional
* Tzviya: has anybody done this before?
  * => no...
  * Tim: we should pick some guinea pigs
    * 2-3 guniea pigs
      * Bill: need to surface "oops, they misinterpreted"
* Tzviya: let's ask Ivan re W3C for survey tools
* Tim: do we need to work on the list of names?
  * Tzviya: bring in IG to suggest names
* [talk about list of names]
* Tzviya: need more traditional publishers
  * Bill: AASP, ALPS? => hundreds of people?
  * Tzviya: specific people
    * SPI
    * Aptara
    * Kindle
* Peter: let's add names to the list document
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DGO1QAoAnlBObSADC85Bd3eH4Up9x8xNGowFLk521bk/edit?usp=sharing>
  * indicate name and reference (public document => No email sharing of
third parties, please)
* Tzviya: Peter will you get started?
  * Peter: yes, I'll get started
    * then circle questionnaire to TF and IG