Re: Network Information API

[Removed Ilya's Google mail and used the address from his homepage.]

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 1:16 PM Thomas Steiner <tomac@google.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have rebooted the Network Information API based on long-going
> discussions with @Yoav Weiss <yoavweiss@google.com> (who currently is
> still OoO):
>
>    - Motivational doc:
>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RDA23zSNdDuIcxZTX9Xo3zlD2fxf8dZg9-e0YaJQv0g/edit?usp=sharing
>    - Explainer: https://github.com/tomayac/netinfo/blob/relaunch/README.md
>    - Spec draft:
>    https://ghcdn.rawgit.org/tomayac/netinfo/relaunch/index.html
>
> This is all in a relatively early stage, but I thought now would be a good
> time to get early feedback.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:04 AM Kostiainen, Anssi <
> anssi.kostiainen@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just opened two GH issues to discuss the DAS WG TPAC proceedings for
>> the Network Information API.
>>
>> Maybe we'll move this discussion to the spec GH repo to have more
>> eyeballs on the issues? See inline.
>>
>> On 26. Oct 2020, at 11.09, Thomas Steiner <tomac@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 4:51 PM Ilya Grigorik <igrigorik@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:12 AM Thomas Steiner <tomac@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, all, for the responses so far. The initial question for @Ilya
>>>> Grigorik <igrigorik@google.com> still stands (whether there's still
>>>> some active spec work happening).
>>>>
>>>
>>> +Yoav Weiss <yoavweiss@google.com> captured it well, there is desire
>>> but no active spec work to address some of the lessons learned. If someone
>>> is willing to drive that process, that'd be great.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the update, Ilya! I guess it's up to the two WGs' chairs then
>> to see if and how to collaborate on this spec then, right?
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/88
>>
>>  Also, thanks, Addy, for the household names, we definitely have some
>>> strong industry representatives in there and can thus say the use cases are
>>> indeed valid and on active use.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the use cases in fact, there's some great discussion happening
>>>> already in issue 85 <https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/85>, with
>>>> the "metered" aspects being the topic of issue 84
>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/84>. So I guess we're in a
>>>> theoretically good position to continue this discussion and just need to
>>>> agree on a practical way as to the how. Is this an adequate summary of the
>>>> state of affairs?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I'd just caution not to over-index on the past backlog and first
>>> spend some quality time on unpacking lessons learned from what is already
>>> out there, and have a think on whether there is a simpler implementation
>>> that can satisfy the key needs whilst exposing less entropy.
>>>
>>
>> I agree. @Addy Osmani <addyo@google.com>, are you in a position to
>> provide some insights here? And @Yoav Weiss <yoavweiss@google.com>, you
>> the WG members would probably have opinions on this, too. Is it worth
>> opening an Issue to collect new use cases and another one to reflect on
>> existing use cases?
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/87
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Anssi (DAS WG co-chair)
>>
>>
>
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