Re: Network Information API

Hi all,

I have rebooted the Network Information API based on long-going discussions
with @Yoav Weiss <yoavweiss@google.com> (who currently is still OoO):

   - Motivational doc:
   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RDA23zSNdDuIcxZTX9Xo3zlD2fxf8dZg9-e0YaJQv0g/edit?usp=sharing
   - Explainer: https://github.com/tomayac/netinfo/blob/relaunch/README.md
   - Spec draft:
   https://ghcdn.rawgit.org/tomayac/netinfo/relaunch/index.html

This is all in a relatively early stage, but I thought now would be a good
time to get early feedback.

Cheers,
Tom

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:04 AM Kostiainen, Anssi <
anssi.kostiainen@intel.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I just opened two GH issues to discuss the DAS WG TPAC proceedings for the
> Network Information API.
>
> Maybe we'll move this discussion to the spec GH repo to have more eyeballs
> on the issues? See inline.
>
> On 26. Oct 2020, at 11.09, Thomas Steiner <tomac@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 4:51 PM Ilya Grigorik <igrigorik@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:12 AM Thomas Steiner <tomac@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, all, for the responses so far. The initial question for @Ilya
>>> Grigorik <igrigorik@google.com> still stands (whether there's still
>>> some active spec work happening).
>>>
>>
>> +Yoav Weiss <yoavweiss@google.com> captured it well, there is desire but
>> no active spec work to address some of the lessons learned. If someone is
>> willing to drive that process, that'd be great.
>>
>
> Thanks for the update, Ilya! I guess it's up to the two WGs' chairs then
> to see if and how to collaborate on this spec then, right?
>
>
> https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/88
>
>  Also, thanks, Addy, for the household names, we definitely have some
>> strong industry representatives in there and can thus say the use cases are
>> indeed valid and on active use.
>>
>>>
>>> For the use cases in fact, there's some great discussion happening
>>> already in issue 85 <https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/85>, with
>>> the "metered" aspects being the topic of issue 84
>>> <https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/84>. So I guess we're in a
>>> theoretically good position to continue this discussion and just need to
>>> agree on a practical way as to the how. Is this an adequate summary of the
>>> state of affairs?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I'd just caution not to over-index on the past backlog and first
>> spend some quality time on unpacking lessons learned from what is already
>> out there, and have a think on whether there is a simpler implementation
>> that can satisfy the key needs whilst exposing less entropy.
>>
>
> I agree. @Addy Osmani <addyo@google.com>, are you in a position to
> provide some insights here? And @Yoav Weiss <yoavweiss@google.com>, you
> the WG members would probably have opinions on this, too. Is it worth
> opening an Issue to collect new use cases and another one to reflect on
> existing use cases?
>
>
> https://github.com/WICG/netinfo/issues/87
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Anssi (DAS WG co-chair)
>
>

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