Re: [geolocation-sensor] Mark as Discontinued Draft and continue in Geolocation API (#60)

> This was discussed in the Working Group's F2F meeting, minutes: https://www.w3.org/2023/09/14-dap-minutes.html#t16

I don't see any reference to either the Mozilla Position or the WebKit position? Where did you specifically discuss the actual positions? 

I do see people asking for positions from Mozilla and WebKit in various other parts. And a various pleas to find what WebKit and Mozilla are doing. It's telling how many times **Mozilla (4) and WebKit (7)** get mentioned in the DAS minutes. If you want to work with us on stuff, then do it in a forum where we can, and would want to, participate (i.e., WebApps). Thankfully, we can now for the joint deliverables.  

@reillyeon, it would be great to have an actual meeting to discuss the 6 things I listed (point by point) https://github.com/w3c/geolocation-sensor/issues/60#issue-2307167883 and [Mozilla's position](https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#geolocation-sensor), which is:

> Given that the web already has a geolocation API, any additional API for the same purpose would have to meet a high bar as both will need to be maintained forever. While the document claims to improve security and privacy, there is no evidence that is the case. And as it can be largely polyfilled on top of the existing API, it seems better to invest in web platform geolocation additions there, if any.

I'm happy to join a call to discuss https://github.com/w3c/geolocation-sensor/issues/60#issue-2307167883 and maybe we can reach out to someone form Mozilla to join to discuss their position (e.g.,  @tantek) . 

> @marcoscaceres as a chair, I'd like to invite you to our next F2F as a guest [as permitted by the W3C Process](https://www.w3.org/2023/Process-20231103/#GeneralMeetings) so we can build consensus on these important background and geofencing use cases together.

Appreciate the invite, but I must decline because (again) DAS is excluding other members by only inviting me. 

What would  be better would be to meet as a larger community on Wednesday at TPAC during the Tech Plenary. If we want to build consensus on this, we should do it in a forum where it doesn't need to be "permitted by the W3C Process" and where folks form Mozilla and other interested parties can join.

Also, as almost all DAS members are also part of WebApps (and all implementers are represented in WebApps), we should really have the discussions there. It doesn't make sense to have them in DAS at the exclusion of WebKit and 

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