- From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:37:37 +1000
- To: public-data-shapes-wg <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <e9f172e8-5af3-e649-2d60-7cd59b645896@topquadrant.com>
This was indeed a bit geeky. I have changed it to
Target
Atargetrelates ashape
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-shape>with itsfocus nodes
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-focus-node>. SHACL provides
several different kinds of targets, most notably theSHACL instances
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-shacl-instance>of a
givenclass <http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-shacl-class>,
specifically enumeratednodes
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-node>, or allobjects
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-object>orsubjects
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-subject>of a givenpredicate
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-predicate>. Targets are
represented by triples in theshapes graph
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-shapes-graph>, for example
using the property |sh:targetClass|. Validating ashape
<http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#dfn-shape>involves validating
the target nodes for all targets of the shape.
which is hopefully clearer. (The example for a triple would have been
using sh:targetClass while an example for a node would have been a
custom sh:target, but you are right this level of detail was not
contributing anything at this stage).
Thanks,
Holger
On 14/08/2016 13:52, Irene Polikoff wrote:
> "A target is a triple
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160814/#dfn-rdf-triple> or a
> node <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160814/#dfn-node> in the
> shapes graph
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160814/#dfn-shapes-graph> that
> specifies which nodes
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160814/#dfn-node> in a data
> graph
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160814/#dfn-data-graph> are
> validated against a shape
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160814/#dfn-shape>. “
>
> I found this confusing.
>
> Can you give an example of when a target is a triple that specifies
> which nodes are to be validated and another example of when it is a
> triple that specifies which nodes are validated?
>
> Irene
>
>
> From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com
> <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>>
> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 11:00 PM
> To: public-data-shapes-wg <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org
> <mailto:public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>>
> Subject: Re: [W3C Process] Specberus errors when attempting to publish
> SHACL spec
> Resent-From: <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org
> <mailto:public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>>
> Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 03:00:52 +0000
>
> A bit of trial-and-error later, it worked! New version went out at
>
> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-shacl-20160814/
>
> The changes that I had to make was to switch some URLs from http to
> https. Well, glad to know the W3C changed their policy...
>
> Thanks
> Holger
>
>
> On 13/08/2016 22:16, Eric Prud'hommeaux wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2016 06:09, "Holger Knublauch" <holger@topquadrant.com
>> <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Simon,
>> >
>> > thanks for looking into this. I see still nothing wrong. The
>> >
>> > <section id="sotd"></section>
>> >
>> > that produces this text is still there and hasn't been changed for
>> months. Also, we do have an entry
>> >
>> > wgPatentURI: "http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/73865/status",
>> >
>> > which will be used to populate the patent policy. I did some more
>> (failed) attempts playing with document status (to WD). I also
>> compared our metadata with one that was recently published without
>> problems, but don't see any real differences.
>> >
>> > I am clueless at this stage and will need to post to some other W3C
>> mailing list (unless someone here has other ideas). Just to let you
>> know that we have a delay with the publication.
>>
>> Automation is great, except when it isn't.
>>
>> I am, in principle, on vacation at my grandmother-in-law's cabin for
>> 9 days but I'll find some opportunity to sneak away, some outlet to
>> power my laptop (I never go anywhere without it), and some digital
>> network to transport my bits.
>>
>> > Holger
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/08/2016 16:29, Simon Steyskal wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >>> "key": "no-disclosures",
>> >>> "type": {
>> >>> "name": "sotd.pp"
>> >>> .............
>> >>> To me these look like problems in the header metdata, but I am not
>> >>> aware of changes from our side. I tried to make sense of this using
>> >>> https://www.w3.org/pubrules [2] and the little info that I could find
>> >>> on specberus, but maybe those more experienced with the W3C process
>> >>> (cough, Eric) may have seen this before?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sounds like it's about the document status section [1]:
>> >>
>> >> "§ It MUST include this text related to patent policy requirements
>> (with suitable links inserted; see guidelines for linking to
>> disclosure pages):
>> >>
>> >> This document was produced by a group operating under the 5
>> February 2004 W3C Patent Policy. W3C maintains a public list of any
>> patent disclosures made in connection with the deliverables of the
>> group; that page also includes instructions for disclosing a patent.
>> An individual who has actual knowledge of a patent which the
>> individual believes contains Essential Claim(s) must disclose the
>> information in accordance with section 6 of the W3C Patent Policy."
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> simon
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://www.w3.org/pubrules/doc/rules/?profile=WD#document-status
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> DDipl.-Ing. Simon Steyskal
>> >> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna
>> >>
>> >> www: http://www.steyskal.info/ twitter: @simonsteys
>> >>
>> >> Am 2016-08-12 05:03, schrieb Holger Knublauch:
>> >>>
>> >>> I was trying to publish a new version of the SHACL spec using Echidna
>> >>> but this time got two new errors that I cannot explain:
>> >>>
>> >>> "specberus": {
>> >>> "status": "failure",
>> >>> "errors": [
>> >>> {
>> >>> "key": "no-disclosures",
>> >>> "type": {
>> >>> "name": "sotd.pp"
>> >>> }
>> >>> },
>> >>> {
>> >>> "key": "no-homepage",
>> >>> "extra": {
>> >>> "homepage": "http://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/ [1]"
>> >>> },
>> >>> "type": {
>> >>> "name": "sotd.group-homepage",
>> >>> "section": "document-status",
>> >>> "rule": "WGLink"
>> >>> }
>> >>> }
>> >>> ]
>> >>> },
>> >>> To me these look like problems in the header metdata, but I am not
>> >>> aware of changes from our side. I tried to make sense of this using
>> >>> https://www.w3.org/pubrules [2] and the little info that I could find
>> >>> on specberus, but maybe those more experienced with the W3C process
>> >>> (cough, Eric) may have seen this before?
>> >>>
>> >>> (Besides, what would be the URL to give to the pubrules test server?
>> >>> I tried
>> >>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/data-shapes/gh-pages/shacl/index.html
>>
>> >>> [3] but that produces 28 errors).
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>> Holger
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Links:
>> >>> ------
>> >>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/
>> >>> [2] https://www.w3.org/pubrules
>> >>> [3]
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/data-shapes/gh-pages/shacl/index.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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