Re: speeding up the working group

On 10/2/2015 23:10, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> In my view the best way to speed up the working group would be to have more
> work on implementations of SHACL.  For the working group to finish
> successfully, there should be multiple interoperating implementations of
> SHACL.  Having these implementations underway now will not only make the later
> phases of the W3C process go faster, but will also provide valuable
> information to the working group on various aspects of SHACL.  If these
> implementations are done by major vendors of RDF tools, then that is even better.
>
> So, if anyone wants the working group to come up with a W3C recommendation
> more quickly, I think that they should be reaching out to RDF tool vendors to
> convince them to put more resources into the working group and particularly
> into implementing SHACL.

I fully agree and look forward to exchanging implementation experience 
with other groups.

I would like to use this opportunity to also explain why I am sometimes 
"impatient" and frustrated with the speed of the WG. I believe it is 
beneficial for the WG to have an active implementer (TQ) who is 
motivated to closely track the evolution of the standard. I am thus able 
to provide additional input that we would otherwise not have, and I can 
confirm or criticize assumptions and the design.

Tracking the specification however also means that it is sometimes 
complex to keep multiple "branches" of the spec, the software and the 
Turtle file alive and synchronized. There is quite a bit of extra cost 
involved in not being able to progress on the changes proposed in 
ISSUE-95 and ISSUE-98. Especially the latter seems to be 
uncontroversial, and several people have spoken out in support of it, 
yet it is hanging around unresolved for over three weeks now and we 
didn't even have a straw poll on it.

There is a need to balance the formal processes (issue tracker etc) with 
the practical reality of building things and getting work done.

Holger

Received on Friday, 9 October 2015 01:44:22 UTC