Re: F2F draft agenda

On Feb 11, 2015 5:23 PM, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> On 02/11/2015 07:39 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
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> >> I think the core definition syntax can be orthogonal to both issues.
> >> IBM Resource Shapes
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> Resource Shape the submission to W3C?
> http://www.w3.org/Submission/2014/SUBM-shapes-20140211/
> Or OSLC Resource Shape in open-services.net?
> Or something different?
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> I'll assume the first for now.
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> >> is an example that handles both scoped & unscoped constraints already.
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> Well, maybe.  I'm still finding it very hard to figure out just what
> Resource Shape is supposed to be doing.  I understand ShExC, and I
> understand how you could use some of the vocabulary described in the W3C
> submission to control ShExC (maybe not the same way that is used in
Resource
> Shape), but I get horribly confused when I read papers like OSLC Resource
> Shape:  A language for defining constraints on Linked Data
> http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2013/papers/ldow2013-paper-02.pdf
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> By the way, I just noticed "A resource shape is a resource that describes
> the contents of, and constraints on, the RDF representation of other
> resources." in the Resource Shapes submission.  This clears up the
situation
> for me quite a bit, but why oh why isn't it called a shape resource or
just
> a shape?

I've updated the examples and finished the classes-shapes conversion up
through section 7 in
https://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/data-shapes-primer/no-class-templates.html
Care to try it on for size?

> >> The ldom proposal was IMO a good move but didn't bring consensus on
> >> this core shape definition part. The top-down approach that we are
> >> trying all this time does not lead to any conclusion and maybe a
> >> bottom-up might work. Maybe we can say that this is a temporary syntax
> >> that most people feel comfortable with and if requirements cannot be
> >> met we can adapt it accordingly.
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> >> Best, Dimitris
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> >> [1] https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Technology_Name [2]
> >> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Core_Shape_Definition
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