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Re: [css-writing-mode] change a structure of text-baseline test cases.

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:59:01 -0500
Message-ID: <547185B5.50405@inkedblade.net>
To: "塩澤 元 (Shiozawa, Hajime)" <hajime.shiozawa@gmail.com>, Gérard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
CC: Public CSS test suite mailing list <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>, Rebecca Hauck <rhauck@adobe.com>, fantasai <fantasai@inkedblade.net>
On 11/17/2014 09:12 AM, 塩澤 元 (Shiozawa, Hajime) wrote:
> Hi Gérard,
> I change a structure of text-baseline-***.html.
> Points are following.
> 1. Test files are divided into more fine test case.
> 2. Each test case contains a one test case and is named a combination of writing-mode property and text-orientation property.
> (e.g. tb-sideways-left).
> 3. Files which have same number may have a same reference file.
>     For example, the following files will have same reference file.
>     + text-baseline-002-lr-sideways.xht
>     + text-baseline-002-lr-sideways-left.xht
>     + text-baseline-002-rl-sideways-left.xht
> 4. I will apply the change to the others if this time change is no problem.
> I consider about creating a reference file using a new font you discuss about now.

Hello Shiozawa-san,
Here are my comments on your testcases.

First is design of the test. These cases test whether the image is aligned
to the text at the correct baseline. This is only one effect of the dominant
baseline, and it's possible the UA got this one correct but missed others
relevant to the alignment of text or vice versa.

These are the effects of the dominant baseline:
   * when glyphs of different sizes are aligned to each other
   * when glyphs of the same size but different fonts are aligned to each other
     (e.g. if one font has the baseline at 12% and the other at 20%)
   * when atomic inlines are aligned to surrounding text

Ideally we would test all three, but the second one will require a new test
font, which we don't have at the moment. So let us focus on the other two.

Alignment of Different-size Text

To test different sizes, we will need some text on the line that is of at
least two different sizes. I suggest using three sizes, to test sizing both
up and down. For example,


(Please substitute <span> and CSS instead of <big>/<small>. 30px/50px/10px
should show off the differences adequately.)

For central alignment, we can use different-colored squares ("A") and require
that the squares be perfectly centered with respect to each other.

For alphabetic alignment, we can use "É" glyphs (or "p" glyphs) all of the
same color and require that the appropriate side of the resulting shape is

The reference files for each can be made using backgrounds or borders
and margins on normal blocks or floated blocks (no 'writing-mode'), as
appropriate. Make sure the boxes all have the same margin-box size, so
that we don't need to worry about how they are aligned!

Alignment of Images to Text

Your existing tests do technically test this, but since they use a 1px line,
they do not test it very vigorously. To do that, we need a larger image. I
would suggest using one of the support/*-swatch images, sizing it to be a
larger or smaller square if necessary.

You can test alignment of images similar to how we did text to larger text.

This will not only test whether the image is aligned to the correct baseline,
but also whether the correct point within the image is chosen for the alignment!
For example, in central alignment the center of the image will be chosen,
whereas for alphabetic alignment its edge will be chosen. It is important to
test this also.

> New test files are following.
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-001-tb-mixed.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-001-tb-sideways-left.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-001-tb-sideways-right.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-001-tb-sideways.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-001-tb-upright.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-001-tb-use-glyph-orientation.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-002-lr-sideways-left.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-002-lr-sideways.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-002-rl-sideways-left.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-003-lr-sideways-right.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-003-rl-sideways-right.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-003-rl-sideways.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-004-lr-mixed.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-004-lr-upright.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-004-lr-use-glyph-orientation.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-004-rl-mixed.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-004-rl-upright.xht
> https://github.com/hshiozawa/csswg-test/blob/master/css-writing-modes-3/text-baseline-004-rl-use-glyph-orientation.xht

My second comment is about test organization. I think it's important that each
test file be understandable and not too complicated, both visually and code-wise.
Sometimes this requires separating out related cases into multiple files. But in
this case, I think it's just as understandable to keep all the text-orientation
values in one file, and by keeping them in the same file it will make it easier
to understand the tests because of the reduced duplication of code and the ability
to see at once the variation in the tests and the similarity. Also, since we are
automating tests, it will run faster if there are fewer files. So my preference
would be to have separate files for each writing mode, but the same file for all
text-orientation values.

However, I defer to Rebecca Hauck on this matter, since she is in charge of such
matters, so let us have her opinion. :)

Overall, you did a good job of covering all of the combinations and documenting
what the tests should be. (And they are not incorrect tests, they just could be
more precise and more comprehensive.) So thank you for your efforts!

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