- From: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:38:07 +0000
- To: Simon Fraser <smfr@me.com>
- CC: Geoffrey Sneddon <gsneddon@opera.com>, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, "L. David Baron" <dbaron@dbaron.org>, John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com>, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, Arron Eicholz <Arron.Eicholz@microsoft.com>, "public-css-testsuite@w3.org" <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>
> From: Simon Fraser [mailto:smfr@me.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:32 PM > To: Sylvain Galineau > Cc: Geoffrey Sneddon; Anne van Kesteren; L. David Baron; John Jansen; > fantasai; Arron Eicholz; public-css-testsuite@w3.org > Subject: Re: Conversion of MS CSS 2.1 tests to reftests > > On Sep 28, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Sylvain Galineau wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Geoffrey Sneddon [mailto:gsneddon@opera.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:33 AM > >> To: Sylvain Galineau > >> Cc: Anne van Kesteren; L. David Baron; John Jansen; fantasai; Arron > >> Eicholz; public-css-testsuite@w3.org > >> Subject: Re: Conversion of MS CSS 2.1 tests to reftests > >> > >> On 21/09/10 18:36, Sylvain Galineau wrote: > >>> It will be a sunk cost once it is built and running. > >> > >> The reftest runner is a sunk cost for everyone apart from MS. I > expect > >> it'd take around 1w full-time to convert half the testsuite to > reftests. > > > > Cool. Are you doing that ? It sounded like you need the help of > others for > > that part. > > > >> Given five browsers (i.e., the number of browser vendors in the WG) > it > >> would, at the currently quoted time, take 15 (working) days to run. > If > >> we spend 5 days automating stuff and get it down to 7.5 days to run > the > >> testsuite for all vendors, we've made a net gain. And that's just > when > >> running the testsuite once, and I doubt we're just going to do it > once. > > > > Sure, but some vendors have already spent time running the test suite > at > > this stage (Apple,Google) so it may not be a net gain for the purpose > of > > this first IR. > > Apple has not run the test suite in full. I've done about 25% of the > tests so far. You said on Sunday that "I've been through about 60% of the HTML4 tests in the 20100917 suite, and have some feedback". I guess I was over-optimistic about what 'going through' meant :) > > Any work do reduce the amount of manual labor will help us, even at > this late stage. > When we start working on actually fixing issues revealed by the suite, > it will of course > be invaluable.
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