- From: Gérard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
- Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:41:35 -0700
- To: "Geoffrey Sneddon" <gsneddon@opera.com>
- Cc: "Simon Fraser" <smfr@me.com>, "Public CSS 2.1 test suite mailing list" <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>, "Daniel Schattenkirchner" <crazy-daniel@gmx.de>, "David Hammond" <dhammond@webdevout.net>
> On 03/10/10 20:19, "Gérard Talbot" wrote: >> [Addendum: Opera 10.62 passes >> http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20101001/html4/content-type-000.htm and >> http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20101001/html4/content-type-001.htm but fails >> http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/css21testsuite/content-type-000.html and >> http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/css21testsuite/content-type-001.html so these 2 still requires investigation. >> ] > The tests have different DOCTYPEs on your site compared with those as built in the testsuite; without the system identifier in the DOCTYPE (as > they are on your site) the pages are in quirks mode. Geoffrey, I do not understand this. This doctype declaration <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"> should trigger web standards compliant rendering mode in all browsers, including Opera 10.62. 1- Please load this page http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/css21testsuite/content-type-000.html and then do F4 to open panels and then choose the info panel. The rendering mode reported by Opera 10.62 build 6438 is web standards compliant, not backward-compatible "quirks" mode. 2- This webpage is incomplete: http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/presto26/doctypes/ as I chose a fairly common and used doctype declaration, otherwise not a rare doctype declaration. That webpage should list what happens in terms of rendering mode if <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"> is used. 3- Handling of Some Doctypes in text/html by Henri Sivonen http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/#handling lists doctype declarations, rendering modes and browsers. I see a S inside a green cell for Opera 10 when <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"> is being used. There are other websites like this reinforcing such information. 4- All other browsers (IE8, Firefox 2+, Konqueror 4+, etc) that I know of which trigger standards compliant rendering mode when the doctype declared is <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"> +CC: Daniel Schattenkirchner, David Hammond regards, Gérard -- Contributions to the CSS 2.1 test suite: http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/css21testsuite/ CSS 2.1 test suite (RC2; October 1st 2010): http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20101001/html4/toc.html CSS 2.1 test suite contributors: http://test.csswg.org/source/contributors/
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