Re: [csswg-drafts] [css-sizing] intrinsic-size lost the thread 🙁 (#4531)

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&lt;dael> Topic: [css-sizing] intrinsic-size lost the thread<br>
&lt;dael> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4531<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Given there's no additional suggestions our current proposal is revert back to a property with a default size for a contain:size element. Proposed name is content-placeholder-size. Happy to bikeshed. Makes it clear that it's a special case<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Objections or additional ideas on use cases with expanded form of content size please say so.<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: I think if specific to contain it should be prefixed with contain.<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: contain-placeholder is fine<br>
&lt;dael> myles: Placeholder a term of art for inputs?<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: It's used for placeholder in inputs. I'm hesitant to use the word<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Where is placeholder in css?<br>
&lt;fantasai> ::placeholder and :placeholder-shown<br>
&lt;dael> dbaron: pseudo element and pseudo class<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Yeah, forgot about that one<br>
&lt;dbaron> ::placeholder and :placeholder-shown, I think<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: contain-size unless you've got a good word in the middle<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: contain-initial-size<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: initial or default seems reasonable<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: If it's a flex item stretched it won't size to that size. contain-content-size maybe. Initial may not make sense<br>
&lt;dbaron> (it wasn't minuted, but I did say above that I wasn't aware of https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4585 until it was mentioned today)<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: I would prefer a word that clarifies in the middle<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: contain-size sure<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: issues with contain-size?<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: Prop: Change the current contain:size to contain-size as its own property<br>
&lt;fantasai> dbaron, you could have posted suggestions into the original issue? But either way if you come up with something to add I'm sure we can reconsider.<br>
&lt;dael> chrishtr: it's a param to contain:size<br>
&lt;dael> chrishtr: contain-size is a param to contain:size that indicates non-zero<br>
&lt;dael> ??: Rename intrinsit-size to contain-size<br>
&lt;cbiesinger> s/??/cbiesinger/<br>
&lt;cbiesinger> s/intrinsit/intrinsic/<br>
&lt;dael> chrishtr: If contain:size is on an eleemnt we look to see if contain-size is set and then set placeholder sizing<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Contain-size is none or lengths<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: contain-intrinsic-size?<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: Prop: Add contain-intrinsic-size property with an initial value of 0 that takes a pair of length<br>
&lt;dael> cbiesinger: Remain intrinisc-size to contain-intrinisic-size<br>
&lt;cbiesinger> s/remain/rename/<br>
&lt;dael> chrishtr: And conditioned on contain:size being present<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: Prop: Have a contain-intrinsic-size property<br>
&lt;dael> dbaron: I missed the request for examples. I'd like to try and do that next week and get examples in the past<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: Let's say if we do in this direction we'll do this and waiting on dbaron examples<br>
&lt;tantek>  is confused trying to follow this and can't offer a specific opinion. :/ examples would help.<br>
&lt;dael> florian: We mentioned initial value. For contain-size it's 0 for non-replaces which isn't always 0. Does initial value =0 and adds size or is it auto?<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Initial value of none. If you spec size it'll intercept<br>
&lt;dael> florian: Initial size of 0 it replaces?<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Yeah<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: TabAtkins can you commit to specing this out so we can have all the details and dbaron examples and see if it fits?<br>
&lt;dael> TabAtkins: Yes<br>
&lt;dael> fantasai: TabAtkins maybe spec both and we'll delete the one we don't select<br>
&lt;dael> astearns: Let's get proposal and examples together and we'll look next week<br>
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