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Re: [csswg-drafts] [mediaqueries-4] Port Media Groups section of CSS2.1

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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 06:17:17 +0000
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The Working Group just discussed `porting media groups`, and agreed to the following:

* `RESOLVED: Remove Media line from all propdef tables`

<details><summary>The full IRC log of that discussion</summary>
&lt;heycam> Topic: porting media groups<br>
&lt;heycam> github: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2413<br>
&lt;heycam> florian: CSS 2.1 has a section, media groups, which decribes what media groups are<br>
&lt;heycam> ... visual, interactive, static, things like this<br>
&lt;heycam> ... it doesn't define what they are, just lists what exists<br>
&lt;heycam> ... then says visual is print or screen or tv or handheld<br>
&lt;heycam> ... interactive is print or screen or somet tvs<br>
&lt;heycam> ... this is used in the propdef for every property definition<br>
&lt;heycam> ... Media: Visual<br>
&lt;heycam> ... fantasai suggested porting this to something else<br>
&lt;heycam> ... but I don't think it does anything useful<br>
&lt;heycam> ... unllike the Applies line, which says browsers will do nothing on some elements<br>
&lt;heycam> ... this basically says "on some browsers this property won't be supported"<br>
&lt;heycam> ... they're insufficiently described<br>
&lt;heycam> ... the way we've used the Media line, 95% say Visual, the few that say something else are using it wrong<br>
&lt;heycam> ... I suggest we stop having a Media line<br>
&lt;heycam> dbaron: I think the reality is there's been not a lot of implementation of CSS for anything other than visual media<br>
&lt;heycam> ... and what implementation there has been hasn't provided feedback to the WG, so the specs don't account for it well<br>
&lt;heycam> florian: the animations and transitions properties claim to work on interatctive media, not visual<br>
&lt;heycam> ... if you look at how interactie is defined, it would seem to mean the transitions and aanimations work on a kindle with buttons, but not on a digital signage screen with no buttons<br>
&lt;heycam> ... which is wrong<br>
&lt;heycam> ... so we could define it in a way that's correct<br>
&lt;heycam> ... but it's still not useful<br>
&lt;heycam> frremy: makes sense to me<br>
&lt;heycam> myles: is it valuable to say you can't animate on a piece of paper?<br>
&lt;heycam> RESOLVED: Remove Media line from all propdef tables<br>
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