- From: Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 21:47:49 -0700
- Cc: CredWeb CG <public-credibility@w3.org>
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unscribe On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 9:44 PM Tom Jones <thomasclinganjones@gmail.com> wrote: > This is now officially nutz. How do I get out of this? > > Be the change you want to see in the world ..tom > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:49 PM Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Not that this group needs more evidence of the problem but here's some >> <https://greenwald.substack.com/p/new-proof-emerges-of-the-biden-family?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNzI2NDE5OSwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDE2NTU1MTksIl8iOiJBVVNseCIsImlhdCI6MTYzMjMzMzgzOSwiZXhwIjoxNjMyMzM3NDM5LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMTI4NjYyIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.VExF-WsNs9bSmeMDqYBsez-WPDOyMHvBuBmwEylHyV4> >> that is pretty clear. >> >> From my perspective, it appears those who disbelieve the existence of the Deep >> State <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state> are engaging in artificial >> ignorance >> <https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/artificial-ignorance-owen-ambur/> in >> service to The Politics Industry >> <https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/politics-industry-v-we-people-magic-formula-owen-ambur/>. >> There is nothing mysterious or particularly nefarious about it. People who >> believe that more, bigger, centralized government is the solution to every >> problem naturally will strive to create more of it. If that's what they >> truly believe, who can blame them? Certainly not others who share their >> point of view. >> >> Given that dynamic, relevant questions include: >> >> 1. how "deep" the State will become, >> 2. how much the Fourth Estate >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Estate> may continue to >> collaborate in further deepening it, >> 3. whether the Fifth Estate >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Estate> will play a reinforcing >> or counterbalancing role, >> 4. at what point the "free world" virtually ceases to exist (and >> whether, at that point, anyone will care) and >> 5. what, if anything, this group may care to try to do about >> revealing the personal values and political motivations that influence not >> only perceptions of truth but also and particularly what is considered to >> be *worthy* of attention. >> >> With respect to the fourth point, both extremes on the political spectrum >> seem to fear the other will take us there but it is hard for me to see how >> that can be the case when one side wants *less* government. How does >> that lead to totalitarianism? I have yet to see any evidence that recent >> immigrants from totalitarian countries fear that outcome from the >> less-government side of the equation. I've seen multiple reports from >> those who fear we're heading for what they left. >> >> See also some of the values espoused by George Orwell >> <https://stratml.us/carmel/iso/TOFwStyle.xml#values_>. >> >> A related issue is that the lesson to be taken from Afghanistan, Syria, >> NoKo, Russia, and China seems to be that brutality wins. The choice >> between freedom and life isn't much of a choice for most people and those >> most likely to impose that choice are those who believe they know what's >> best for everyone else. Which side is arguing those who disagree with them >> have no right to make a living, much less be left in peace to live their >> lives as they see fit? >> >> BTW, for those who value stories, here's a short one: >> >> During a ride on the DC subway in 2016, that National Archives and >> Records Administration's chief counsel told me that, although he was a >> strong Democrat, he could not vote for Hillary Clinton because of her >> E-mail server issue. Both he and I knew that she had willfully violated >> the Federal Records Act but the news media helped to obfuscate that fact, >> in order to minimize an October Surprise >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise#2016:_Clinton_vs._Trump> >> adversely impacting their anointed candidate. >> >> In any event, our "democratic" political system had delivered two >> candidates for which neither one of us could vote. If anyone believes such >> a system is the best we can do, that's a pretty sad state of affairs. >> >> I believe we can do better ... albeit not if we continue to engage in >> artificial ignorance. >> >> I look forward to learning what this group might be willing and able to >> do about that. >> Owen >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/ >> >
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