[MINUTES] CCG Atlantic 2026-06-30

This meeting of the CCG Atlantic began with administrative updates,
including reminders about the W3C Code of Ethics, membership and IPR, and
the recording of calls. Greg Bernstein announced the first public working
draft of the post-quantum or quantum-resistant crypto suites document,
highlighting confirmed test vectors and a demo site. Elaine Wooton also
mentioned the first public working draft of the forgery defense spec.
Dmitri Zagidulin provided an update on the capability-based storage task
force, outlining plans for its initial calls in July, which will cover
wallet-attached storage, authorization capabilities (Zcaps), and encrypted
data vaults (EDVs). A discussion ensued about the best way to proceed with
the encrypted data vault spec, considering its previous incubation in a
joint CCG and DIF working group. Unfortunately, the main presentation by
Jasper van de Meent regarding his project was cut short due to technical
difficulties.

*Topics Covered:*

   - *Administrative Updates:* The meeting started with reminders about the
   W3C Code of Ethics, membership requirements for substantive contributors,
   and the availability of call recordings.
   - *Post-Quantum Crypto Suites:* Greg Bernstein announced the release of
   the first public working draft for quantum-resistant crypto suites, noting
   the validation of test vectors and a new demo site showcasing their
   implementation.
   - *Forgery Defense Spec:* Elaine Wooton briefly mentioned the
   publication of the first public working draft for the forgery defense
   specification.
   - *Capability-Based Storage Task Force:* Dmitri Zagidulin provided an
   update on the upcoming capability-based storage task force, announcing its
   first calls will take place in July and will cover wallet-attached storage,
   Zcaps, and EDVs.
   - *Encrypted Data Vaults (EDVs) Spec:* A discussion was initiated
   regarding the best approach for the EDVs spec, particularly concerning its
   previous incubation and how to proceed with its further development within
   CCG and potentially jointly with DIF.
   - *Jasper van de Meent's Project Presentation:* Jasper van de Meent
   attempted to present his project, which focuses on identity and continuous
   verification, but the presentation was interrupted and ultimately canceled
   due to significant audio technical difficulties.

*Action Items:*

   - Dmitri Zagidulin will send out an email regarding the best time slot
   for the capability-based storage task force calls.
   - Will Abramson will send a meeting invite to Ramprasad Gaddam for his
   presentation next Tuesday.
   - The presentation by Jasper van de Meent will be rescheduled for a
   future meeting.

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Video: https://meet.w3c-ccg.org/archives/w3c-ccg-atlantic-2026-06-30.mp4
*CCG Atlantic - 2026/06/30 12:01 EDT - Transcript* *Attendees*

Alex Higuera, Dmitri Zagidulin, Elaine Wooton, Erica Connell, Grace
Rachmany, Greg Bernstein, Harrison Tang, Jasper van de Meent, JeffO -
HumanOS, Jennie Meier, Mahmoud Alkhraishi, Phillip Long, Ramprasad Gaddam,
Ted Thibodeau Jr, Will Abramson
*Transcript*

Will Abramson: Okay, sorry folks. A little bit late. we'll give people a
couple more minutes before we get started.

Will Abramson: Okay, great. I think we can get started. People can trickle
in as they come. So, welcome everyone to today's credentials community
group call. Today we've got Jasper who's going to talk to us about his
project. before I get into that though, I'll just go through the admin
stuff from our end. So, first, we're a W3T community group. We follow the
W3C code of ethics and professional conduct.

Will Abramson: So just a friendly reminder to folks to be aware of that,
follow it and continue to make a friendly work environment for second IP
notes. So anyone's welcome to participate in these calls. However,
substantiative contributors to any CCG work item must be members of the CCG
with full IPR agreement signed. just reach out to me or Mahmud or Denan. We
can help you with that if you need help. third call notes. So these calls
are recorded using Google's transcription service and the recording is made
available on the mailing list within 24 hours I believe. for introductions
or reintroductions. Does anybody new to the call today want to say hi or
maybe haven't said hello for a while to introduce themselves?

Will Abramson: I see you can introduce yourself now, but I'm going to hand
over to you in a minute. So, maybe you can introduce yourself at the start.
You also were muted. Greg

Greg Bernstein: I just wanted to remind people that the postquantum or…

Greg Bernstein: quantum resistant crypto suites document for verifiable
credential potential is at first public working draft now that recently
came over from the CCG. we've also been getting which is good for me
confirmation of the test vectors. So this stuff is starting to look very
solid and good. even heard from a company and I'm putting a link in that
published like a demo site.

Greg Bernstein: So I put into the chat the link to the spec and this one
company that was contacted me as they learned how to work with verifiable
credentials and they even set up a little demo site to do that and it
verifies the test vectors and the specs. So people have questions about
those test vectors trying to reproduce them please see me. But, we're well
on our way with the quantum resistant crypto suites.

Will Abramson: That's great news. Thanks, Greg.

Will Abramson: Blame, please.

Elaine Wooton: Yeah,…

Elaine Wooton: I may say this incorrectly, but I think the first public
working draft of the forgery defense spec was published and…
00:05:00

Elaine Wooton: I'll put a link in the chat.

Will Abramson: It's good news.

Will Abramson: Thanks, So, Greg and Ela have jumped the queue a little bit.
That's quite all right. Next is announcements or reminders. So, if anyone
has any other announcements or reminders for the community, please feel
free to share them not hearing anyone. So, I'll move on. Last item before I
hand over to Chester is work items. Do we have any updates from any of the
CCG work items underway at the moment?

Will Abramson: I wonder Dimmitri if I can put you on the spot and ask you
about the task force what's the status on that

Dmitri Zagidulin: Hi everyone. so I'm Dimmitri. I might as well give sort
of introduction. So I'm a engineer working in identity credentials and
storage space. and I'm going to be one of the conveners and co-editors of
the capability based storage task force. going to spin up first calls this
coming month in Jul a doodle poll went out a couple weeks ago for what's
the best time slot for twice a month calls on the first and third week of
the month.

Dmitri Zagidulin: And we've got a couple of good candidates which I think
Elaine unfortunately one of the only slots where some of the editors can
make it are ones that you marked that you're not able to. But that's how it
always is with choosing time slots for these spec calls. So, I'll send out
an email on which time slot works best for everybody shortly after this
call. But basically the calls calls are starting next month.

Dmitri Zagidulin: The calls are going to involve three different tech
families which are wallet attached storage soon to be renamed to web spaces
API authorization capabilities or Zcaps and encrypted data vaults or EDVs.
The wattage storage spec currently lives in MIT's digital credentials
consortium org. We're going to transfer it over to CCG or the ZCAP spec is
already CCG work item so it lives in CCG and the encrypted data vault spec
and actually this is great that Grace is here as well. So the previous
incubation effort for encrypted data vaults was a joint CCG and diff

Dmitri Zagidulin: working group called secure storage. so this was a couple
of years ago and the group sort of wound down for its efforts and went
dormant. So my question to the group and to Grace is what's our best way to
proceed? We can say that we've done the period of incubation in diff and
now passing it over to CCG for further incubation. We can keep the spec in
the diff github org and we're going to jointly.

Dmitri Zagidulin: So basically what's the best way to proceed with
encrypted data vault spec to both the chairs and the diff leadership and…

Dmitri Zagidulin: we can of course don't have to decide it right this
second that can be one of the questions that gets brought up on the first
call. So that's the status update. I look forward to seeing many of you
there.

Will Abramson: Okay. Yeah,…

Will Abramson: Thanks, J. Yes, I appreciate that. I look forward to the
work getting started. Wonderful. I think that's everything. so with that,
I'll hand over to you, Jester, to present to the group. Thanks. You're
still muted. You're mute. Google Meet, I believe. There we go.
00:10:00

Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Still muted.

Ramprasad Gaddam: We can't hear you.

Ramprasad Gaddam: Yeah, we can't hear you.

Jasper van de Meent: Thank you very much for having me. and I just want to
share something maybe information with you guys maybe a few reports and
anyway I want to know a bit about this everything but I've got my knowledge
on 25 years plus of breaking systems and building things and we've came to
earlier I built a system which handles that fairly well in a safety way.

Jasper van de Meent: I can highlight identity to actors humans or on the
time layer with continuous verification and from what I've experienced with
just a systems myself it's more important to not just have a limited time or

Jasper van de Meent: things that can be on brand but just instance so much
nowadays it's not so yeah it's on my other layer when it's stuff like that
so it's yeah I'm sorry I hope I can explain to you guys English is not the
first language Maybe for this

Will Abramson: Sorry, Jessa. Can I just interrupt you a sec? I'm struggling
to hear you too for a while. I wonder if you have a headset or some sort of
headphone. I think there's just maybe the mic's not picking up you're up
too well or…

Jasper van de Meent: Okay.

Will Abramson: I can hear you a little bit but it's bitly

Will Abramson: Okay, hopefully he in the meantime, I wonder Ra Ram, could I
just ask you very quickly if you're okay to present to the group next
Tuesday,…

Will Abramson: I think I've been missing some of your emails. Yeah, I'll
send you a email meeting invite.

Ramprasad Gaddam: Yes, I will.
00:15:00

Ramprasad Gaddam: Yeah, thank you, Will. And I'm not sure…

Ramprasad Gaddam: why those emails are landing there because I'm rarely
sending out an email from this inbox. Google, it is

Will Abramson: Yeah. Yeah.

Will Abramson: I don't know. worries.

Will Abramson: Sorry about the delay, folks. I don't know what's happened
to Jasper. Hopefully be here soon.

Will Abramson: That's just says it's got some problems with hour at the
moment. I don't know. Maybe give him five more minutes and if he's not
here, we just cancel and we can look to reschedu at the moment.
00:20:00

Will Abramson: Yeah, maybe we just have to cancel and we can to reschedu
this.

Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Yeah. Unfortunately,…

Will Abramson: I'm sorry about that.

Mahmoud Alkhraishi: I think we do.

Will Abramson: So, unless anyone has anything else to share just finally
before we close,…

Mahmoud Alkhraishi: right.

Will Abramson: I think we'll call it Sorry about that. I don't know what
went wrong there.

Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Thank you everyone.

Will Abramson: I thought

Ramprasad Gaddam: Thank you.
Meeting ended after 00:21:57 👋

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