Re: Hello world, meet American driver’s licenses

Not my requirements, but if you are going to try to summarize identity standards and where these standards are done, IPR is a big issue on participating and contributing to standards in general for individuals and companies
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Subject: Re: Hello world, meet American driver’s licenses

@Tony: Oh no, that's a shame she didn't address your requirements. Perhaps you can elaborate here and specifically how that's relevant to the point you're trying to make? I'd be happy to pass along to her if it can improve her blog.


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On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 7:09 AM, ANTHONY NADALIN <nadalin@prodigy.net<mailto:nadalin@prodigy.net>> wrote:

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@Brent: fortunately Heather Flanagan has a well-timed blog about _how_ standards are made: https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/06/24/digital-identity-open-

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standards/<https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/06/24/digital-identity-open-standards/>

She left out the IPR issues of each group/org, also left out the purpose of each group/org as this makes a difference if you are trying to influence different governments
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Subject: Re: Hello world, meet American driver’s licenses

@Brent: fortunately Heather Flanagan has a well-timed blog about _how_ standards are made: https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/06/24/digital-identity-open-standards/


I think this is a significant factor.

Someone said in a previous thread on the mDL topic that identity standards must be held to a higher bar. I completely agree. They must allow for open discourse and factoring in local realities. This is critical for establishing trust



On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 11:09 PM, Kerri Lemoie <klemoie@mit.edu<mailto:klemoie@mit.edu>> wrote:
Anthony,

Kim is discussing surveillance not database security. Let’s stay on topic please.

K.

On Jun 25, 2025, at 8:01 AM, ANTHONY NADALIN <nadalin@prodigy.net<mailto:nadalin@prodigy.net>> wrote:


"When we flash our plastic driver’s license to a bartender, hotel clerk, or security guard, something remarkable happens: no trace is left behind. This is thanks to an analog relic: the humble plastic driver’s license"

Since 2017, the driver’s license information of more than 150 million U.S. drivers has been compromised in a data breach or failure to secure a database.
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Subject: Hello world, meet American driver’s licenses

Hi all,
I realized we’ve been talking past each other in the mDL discussion, and a large factor is likely different assumptions and use based on where we live. So I wrote a US driver’s license explainer:
http://kimdhamilton.com/american_privacy/


I hope this will help move the discussion forward when we talk about the risks in the US context.
Kim