Re: Hello world, meet American driver’s licenses

@Tony: Oh no, that's a shame she didn't address your requirements. Perhaps you can elaborate here and specifically how that's relevant to the point you're trying to make? I'd be happy to pass along to her if it can improve her blog.

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On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 7:09 AM, ANTHONY NADALIN < nadalin@prodigy.net > wrote:

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> @Brent: fortunately Heather Flanagan has a well-timed blog about _how_
> standards are made: https:/ / sphericalcowconsulting. com/ 2025/ 06/ 24/ digital-identity-open-
> ( https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/06/24/digital-identity-open- )
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> standards/ (
> https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/06/24/digital-identity-open-standards/
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> She left out the IPR issues of each group/org, also left out the purpose
> of each group/org as this makes a difference if you are trying to
> influence different governments
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> *From:* Kim Hamilton Duffy < kim@ identity. foundation (
> kim@identity.foundation ) >
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2025 6:54 AM
> *To:* Kerri Lemoie < klemoie@ mit. edu ( klemoie@mit.edu ) >
> *Cc:* ANTHONY NADALIN < nadalin@ prodigy. net ( nadalin@prodigy.net ) >; kimdhamilton@
> gmail. com ( kimdhamilton@gmail.com ) < kimdhamilton@ gmail. com (
> kimdhamilton@gmail.com ) >; W3C Credentials CG < public-credentials@ w3. org
> ( public-credentials@w3.org ) >
> *Subject:* Re: Hello world, meet American driver’s licenses
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> @Brent: fortunately Heather Flanagan has a well-timed blog about _how_
> standards are made: https:/ / sphericalcowconsulting. com/ 2025/ 06/ 24/ digital-identity-open-standards/
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> https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/06/24/digital-identity-open-standards/
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> I think this is a significant factor.
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> Someone said in a previous thread on the mDL topic that identity standards
> must be held to a higher bar. I completely agree. They must allow for open
> discourse and factoring in local realities. This is critical for
> establishing trust
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> On Tue, Jun 24 , 2025 at 11:09 PM, Kerri Lemoie < klemoie@ mit. edu (
> klemoie@mit.edu ) > wrote:
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>> Anthony,
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>> Kim is discussing surveillance not database security. Let’s stay on topic
>> please.
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>> K.
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>>> On Jun 25, 2025, at 8:01 AM, ANTHONY NADALIN < nadalin@ prodigy. net (
>>> nadalin@prodigy.net ) > wrote:
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>>> "When we flash our plastic driver’s license to a bartender, hotel clerk,
>>> or security guard, something remarkable happens: no trace is left behind.
>>> This is thanks to an analog relic: the humble plastic driver’s license"
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>>> Since 2017, the driver’s license information of more than 150 million U.S.
>>> drivers has been compromised in a data breach or failure to secure a
>>> database.
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>>> *From:* Kim Hamilton < kimdhamilton@ gmail. com ( kimdhamilton@gmail.com )
>>> >
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 24, 2025 8:22 PM
>>> *To:* W3C Credentials CG (Public List) < public-credentials@ w3. org (
>>> public-credentials@w3.org ) >
>>> *Subject:* Hello world, meet American driver’s licenses
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>>> Hi all,
>>> I realized we’ve been talking past each other in the mDL discussion, and a
>>> large factor is likely different assumptions and use based on where we
>>> live. So I wrote a US driver’s license explainer:
>>> http:/ / kimdhamilton. com/ american_privacy/ (
>>> http://kimdhamilton.com/american_privacy/ )
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>>> I hope this will help move the discussion forward when we talk about the
>>> risks in the US context.
>>> Kim
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