- From: CCG Minutes Bot <minutes@w3c-ccg.org>
- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 19:43:48 +0000
Thanks to Our Robot Overlords and Nis Jespersen for scribing this week! The transcript for the call is now available here: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2024-01-16-traceability/ Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes. Audio of the meeting is available at the following location: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2024-01-16-traceability/audio.ogg A video recording is also available at: https://meet.w3c-ccg.org/archives/w3c-ccg-weekly-2024-01-16.mp4 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Verifiable Traceability Task Force Transcript for 2024-01-16 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/advanced_search?hdr-1-name=subject&hdr-1-query=%5BAGENDA&period_month=Jan&period_year=2024&index-grp=Public__FULL&index-type=t&type-index=public-credentials&resultsperpage=20&sortby=date Organizer: Orie Steele, Mike Prorock, Mahmoud Alkhraishi Scribe: Our Robot Overlords and Nis Jespersen Present: Mahmoud Alkhraishi, Nis Jespersen , Guilherme, TallTed // Ted Thibodeau (he/him) (OpenLinkSw.com), Patrick St-Louis, Chris Abernethy, A.J. Stein, Ted Thibodeau Our Robot Overlords are scribing. Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Welcome to the traceability call for January 16 2024 uh. Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Sorry welcome to trivia call for January 16 2024. Nis Jespersen is scribing. Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/pulls Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/pull/923 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Anything out of the regular agenda? No. Patrick St-Louis: Still having problems with this PR Chris Abernethy: I tested it also, reproduces the error Chris Abernethy: This term is defined already Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Remove the term, it's defined elsewhere Nis Jespersen : Nis : +1 Nis Jespersen : Let's collaborate on this Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/pull/924 Nis Jespersen : We expanded the schema Nis Jespersen : There might be more precise term definitions - but fine to merge Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/pull/925 Nis Jespersen : Outdated way to define workflows. We now use the data model for it. Also pretty bad definitions. Patrick St-Louis: Why no endpoint for getting presentations Nis Jespersen : That is between you and your service provider, not interop Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-interop/pulls Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Moving to trace interop Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-interop/pull/615 Nis Jespersen : Chris, yes, we do want to purge these Patrick St-Louis: Is this not a VP? Mahmoud Alkhraishi: It's unsigned VP Nis Jespersen : The signature is in the header Mahmoud Alkhraishi: The signature is not part of the VP Patrick St-Louis: Issuer and holder often different Mahmoud Alkhraishi: It's quite common that issuer and holder are the same Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Nis, other sections with these references Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-interop/pull/618 Subsequent PR Nis Jespersen : Sorry if I've been sloppy :) Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Opening 618 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/traceability-interop/draft/#interoperability-testing Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Can anyone take update section 10? Mahmoud Alkhraishi: There are still references in section 10 and OAS Nis Jespersen : Let's merge te PRs we got Ted Thibodeau: Consider merge conflicts Mahmoud Alkhraishi: We still need a third PR also Ted Thibodeau: Edit the comment so Github doesn't react Nis Jespersen : Good thinking, Ted! Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-interop/pull/618 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Approval pls Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-interop/pull/619 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: 619: Ack section, copied from trace vocab Acknowledgements Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-interop/pull/620 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Changes to abstract. Would love some more in depth Addresses 528, abstract nicification Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Interpreted as remove relationship to vc api Mahmoud Alkhraishi: More reviews, pls Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-interop/pull/621 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Happy to give it another week and do it properly Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Changes that terminology is only defined in vocab Mergingi in Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Newest agenda: going through vocab issues Ted Thibodeau: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-asc Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-asc Nis Jespersen : Why not least recently updated Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Yup Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/379 Nis Jespersen : We went through Steel Tech Demo, this didn't com eup Mahmoud recapping the issue discussion Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Suggest we don't label this v1 Nis Jespersen : Nis: +1 Chris Abernethy: +1 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/852 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Ted, can you confirm? Nis Jespersen : My PR fixed this Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Closing as complete Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/357 Ted Thibodeau: Was YML removed Chris Abernethy: Yes, Nis PR removed it Nis Jespersen : I don't think 357 isn't v1 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: I think it is Nis Jespersen : Aiming to limit scope as much as possible Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/366 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Labeling 1.1 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Paul was tagged to provide guidance. That was next step Nis Jespersen : Nis +1 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/527 Nis Jespersen : Would love to see this, but not necessary for v1 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Pending close Nis Jespersen : Kill!! Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/607 Nis Jespersen : Pending close from August... Patrick St-Louis: It was renamed for bitstrings Hard time finding the definition. Not sure if SL2021 is still prefered Mahmoud Alkhraishi: This issue is specifically on which documents need suspencion Mahmoud Alkhraishi: And are these compatible? Patrick St-Louis: Notification and time of notification is outside of the scope of SL Mahmoud Alkhraishi: SL doesn't prevent it Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Important, won't hold v1 for it Nis Jespersen : Nis: +1 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/427 Nis Jespersen : It's overly imcompassing Ted Thibodeau: It's unavoidably big. Started out sloppy, needs fixing Ted Thibodeau: 1.1 Nis Jespersen : Nis. +1 <a.j._stein> How many examples are we talking? <a.j._stein> A couple dozen, hundreds? <a.j._stein> Oh ok. Nis Jespersen : ~100 <a.j._stein> I mull over volunteering. (Does W3C have a laugh cry emoji?) Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Update example while you are there Nis Jespersen : Test data is a chore Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Make a few example organizations, then go with those Patrick St-Louis: Should we store those organizations? Mahmoud Alkhraishi: We just need a few Nis Jespersen : It's not all organizations Patrick St-Louis: Reminds me of DID Actor project: alice, bob etc Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Faker Nis Jespersen : We don't use faker any more Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Best effort, make it clear its fake Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/576 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Is this v1? No, not tagging it Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/633 Nis Jespersen : Pretty sure I fixed this Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Closing Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/719 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Nis, you okay to own this for v1? Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/564 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/290 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/385 Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Doesn't seem like a v1 Nis Jespersen : Nis: +1 Patrick St-Louis: For oauth pres exchange, looked at gihub action and test When it hits /presentations, only test is response 200 And is actually responds with error Chris Abernethy: I don't believe those tests were completed Patrick St-Louis: So what should be returned? Should I attach a workflow id? Mahmoud Alkhraishi: You received the workflow id Patrick St-Louis: So, the holder will call /presentations, verifier responds with an ack Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Yes, just ack Nis Jespersen : Encourage you to raise improvements on the collection Mahmoud Alkhraishi: You are trying to use it, you struggle, make sense to raise anything needs fixing Patrick St-Louis: Is there an implied action there should happen? Mahmoud Alkhraishi: What you do with the credentials is your business Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Over time. Thanks for joining this productive meeting. Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Okay to continue this way next week? Patrick St-Louis: Where can we find each other, Nis? Nis Jespersen : Linked in Mahmoud Alkhraishi: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab/issues/882 A.J.: 882, how to discuss it? Mahmoud Alkhraishi: Raise it in the beginning Goodbye <a.j._stein> That's a good question, not sure how much vocab analogues are in OSCAL. <a.j._stein> Thus my question.
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