Re: Meronymity

At the last IIW, we had a session titled: Should Proof of Humanity apply to
my Personal AI?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qzqLotWLt_5W8leQIRKzPxkm2wV2xWXdwEzc6Iiks_Y/edit

The group could not think of a single reason to make a distinction between
me and an AI that I control as my delegate. To introduce such a "CAPTCHA on
steroids" is to limit technological enhancement to corporations and
"others". Will we treat personal technological enhancement the way we treat
doping in sports?

Who would benefit from imposing such a restriction on
technological enhancement?

How would we interpret the human right of Freedom of Association and
Assembly (Article 20) to exclude open source communities creating open
source personal AI that an individual can take responsibility for?

Certifying the vendor, provenance, and training data of a personal AI seems
like the last thing we would want to do. I hope what Drummond is suggesting
applies to AI that is not transparent and controlled by an individual or a
community of individuals in a transparent way. How do we see a world where
two kinds of AI, personal and "certified" interact?

Adrian

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:16 PM Drummond Reed <Drummond.Reed@gendigital.com>
wrote:

> Manu has a good point. I have no problem interacting with an AI bot as
> long as I can be sure it’s an AI bot—and ideally if I can check its vendor,
> provenance, trained data sets, etc.
>
>
>
> Same for a human—I don’t need to know their identity, just their
> authenticity.
>
>
>
> Meronimous (is that a word? 😉) VCs could definitely help do that.
>
>
>
> =Drummond
>
>
>
> *From: *Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2024 at 8:05 AM
> *To: *W3C Credentials CG (Public List) <public-credentials@w3.org>
> *Cc: *Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>, Golda Velez <
> gvelez17@gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: Meronymity
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 11:39 AM Golda Velez <gvelez17@gmail.com> wrote:
> > um.  not to be a downer, but Quora on the non-technical side is
> absolutely full of manipulation by bad actors, imho...
>
> Wouldn't the use of VCs provide some level of assurance that the bad
> actor isn't faking their credentials? As Adrian mentioned, there can
> be reputation associated with those VCs.
>
> > the thing is its important to remember there are quite different
> incentives and less verifiability once you are in a non-technical domain,
> especially geopolitical
>
> Are you saying that there are no combination of verifiable credentials
> that could be used to separate the bots, from the bad actors, from the
> good actors with specific expertise?
>
> Another interesting aspect here is that "the bots" are, probably
> within the next decade, going to legitimately exceed the level of
> expertise of 99.9% of the population on most subjects that could be
> discussed in an online forum. I, for one, welcome our new robot troll
> overlords. :P
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny -
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fmanusporny%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdrummond.reed%40avast.com%7C8b1a80a65c1e47a5731d08dc660249cc%7C94986b1d466f4fc0ab4b5c725603deab%7C0%7C0%7C638497407228003676%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WOhFEB730uWzqudZX3VWXM2nbZlgLINOV5ABU%2F3rU5M%3D&reserved=0
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/>
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalbazaar.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cdrummond.reed%40avast.com%7C8b1a80a65c1e47a5731d08dc660249cc%7C94986b1d466f4fc0ab4b5c725603deab%7C0%7C0%7C638497407228011352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Z0o0VRMgqzyQjvkp8nsi%2Bn0AIvlNFL555g%2Fau8At1fY%3D&reserved=0
> <https://www.digitalbazaar.com/>
>