Re: [EXT] Re: [technical-discuss] Civil Society Response to TSA mDL Rule Making

Matt Spence was amazing. If we could find the budget for him to work full time on the Hill, it would be unbelievable.

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Date: Friday, October 20, 2023 at 7:36 PM
To: Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries>
Cc: Anthony Nadalin <nadalin@prodigy.net>, Daniel Goldscheider <daniel@openwallet.foundation>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, technical-discuss@lists.openwallet.foundation <technical-discuss@lists.openwallet.foundation>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [technical-discuss] Civil Society Response to TSA mDL Rule Making
You know who knows her way around DC is
1) Rebekah from Numerical
2) Nilimini from Hedera.

Let’s talk  about what we might be able to pull together + Matt Spence just spent a year in the senate! Working on digital ID legislation.




On Oct 20, 2023, at 5:58 AM, Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries> wrote:

Recent comments on ISO on CFRG:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/ACDxbVS-vWHjTWFCUGQQfAiFeK0/


OS



On Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 10:40 PM <nadalin@prodigy.net<mailto:nadalin@prodigy.net>> wrote:
This response is very ill informed as they are referencing 18013-5:2021 which is not the current version being worked upon, there many parts to mDL, its just not a single spcification

From: Daniel Goldscheider <daniel@openwallet.foundation>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 2:06 PM
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com<mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>
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Subject: Re: [technical-discuss] Civil Society Response to TSA mDL Rule Making

Thank you Manu.

I meant OpenWallet when I said we but probably should have been more precise. 😉

Your offer is appreciated.                                                                            18015-5

:D


On 19 Oct 2023, at 13:59, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com<mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 4:06 PM Daniel Goldscheider
<daniel@openwallet.foundation<mailto:daniel@openwallet.foundation>> wrote:
In my mind, they should know that we value their perspective and want to speak with them. If they lack time or interest to talk to us that’s their prerogative of course.

They know we value their perspective and that we want to speak with
them... because we've been speaking with them and have told them how
much we value their perspective over the past several years. :)

Members from the W3C CCG and W3C VCWG have had multiple interactions
with these groups going back many years now... there are many places
of alignment on desired outcomes wrt. digital credentials and open
wallet ecosystems.

Kaliya is right -- there is value in expending effort to engage with
these groups as openly and transparently as possible, and in trying to
build a privacy-respecting future in full view of the public ...with a
huge thanks to Kaliya that does that better than almost all of us :).

Nick Doty, from CDT, is one of the Chairs of the W3C Privacy group
(and co-author on that mDL statement). Most recently, they did a
Privacy and Security Review of W3C Verifiable Credentials, so that
language around VCs in the letter was a "well-informed" statement:

https://www.w3.org/Privacy/IG/summaries/PING-minutes-20230817


I view the OWF statement in the document as a positive as well...
Daniel, we'll pull you into future meeting possibilities with these
organizations; it's important for them to understand the "open wallet"
philosophy that we all share. You might consider presenting to the W3C
PING, who has more than a few of these people in attendance on a
fairly regular basis.

-- manu

--
Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/

Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
https://www.digitalbazaar.com/

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