- From: Wayne Chang <wayne@spruceid.com>
- Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 20:07:54 -0800
- To: "Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web)" <mwherman@parallelspace.net>
- Cc: Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>, "G. Ken Holman (g.ken.holman@gmail.com)" <g.ken.holman@gmail.com>, Steve Capell <steve.capell@gmail.com>, "public-credentials (public-credentials@w3.org)" <public-credentials@w3.org>, "sam@prosapien.com" <sam@prosapien.com>
- Message-ID: <CAFTzAXjwP0sVH64x6kmLf5+yUGuY+BcRn-YUV7=m=pcyzbcdtA@mail.gmail.com>
Cool, do you have any code to run this? On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 19:38 Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) < mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote: > If you use some DIDComm imagination, it's easy to see how the 4-Corner > Credential Interoperability Model is highly complementary to supporting a > layered VC model ...here's a glimpse. "More news at 11..." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Capell <steve.capell@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 4:24 PM > To: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net> > Cc: public-credentials (public-credentials@w3.org) < > public-credentials@w3.org>; G. Ken Holman (g.ken.holman@gmail.com) < > g.ken.holman@gmail.com>; Christopher Allen < > ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>; sam@prosapien.com > Subject: Re: 4-Corner Credential Interoperability Model > > > > I think the 4-corner model is the opposite of the VC model. It’s a EDI > message routing framework that delegates the problem of trust (ie trader > identity verification) to EDI hubs. Hubs perform a “service” to their > authenticated subscribers to map messages to the format they need - so > forget about document integrity (how do you maintain a signature when the > document is transformed at two hubs?). There’s nothing verifiable about > the message that eventually lands with the receiver (through 2 hubs). > Instead the parties have to trust that the hubs have properly identified > their clients and have not lost anything in translation > > > > It’s also expensive (every message attracts two clip-fees). I’ve never > seen this model achieve any significant uptake except in cases where it is > mandated by a national regulator > > > > Kind regards > > > > Steven Capell > > Mob: 0410 437854 > > > > > On 4 Feb 2023, at 10:49 pm, Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) < > mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote: > > > > > > A colleague of mine, Ken Holman from Ottawa, recently produced a > conference paper on the topic of the 4-Corner Credential Interoperability > Model. It's originated in the OASIS Universal Business Language (OASIS-UBL) > community where they were experiencing problems with spec compliance, > interoperability, and low/slow technology adoption rates. UBL is a set of > 90+ schemas defined for the most commonly used business documents used in > commerce today. > > > > > > The 4-Corner Credential Interoperability Model is a simple, efficient, > low-cost approach to enable different communities or trading associations > to easily interoperate through the exchange of different types of > credentials. For example, this would be a stepping stone for enabling a > layered approach to how verifiable credentials are defined, used, and > exchanged - an opportunity to move away from a "one-size fits all" niche > VCDM specification to a layered model that addresses the dual needs of: > > > a) the layering of simple, more generic models through to more complex > > > niche credential specifications, as well as > > > b) an interoperability model that is simple, secure, efficient, and > low-cost. > > > > > > Live Presentation: Case study of a semantic library underpinning the > > > 4-corner model for document exchange 2022-11-08 > > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gkholman_ken-holman-case-study-of-a-sem > > > antic-library-activity-7001714323223977985-IKbA > > > > > > Case study of a semantic library underpinning the four-corner model > > > for document exchange > > > https://doi.org/10.1075/da.2022.holman.four-corner-model > > > Proceedings of Declarative Amsterdam 2022 (7 and 8 November 2022) > > > Available under the CC BY 4.0 license. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Michael Herman > > > > > > Web 7.0 > > > > > > > > > <winmail.dat> >
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