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Re: Digitized Notaries and Foundational ID infrastructure

From: Phillip Long <pdlong2@asu.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 20:52:58 +0000
To: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
CC: W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>, Mathieu Glaude <mathieu@northernblock.io>
Message-ID: <3C678C35-01BB-4A63-9EEF-89A4A678B570@asu.edu>
Adrian: I’ve thought for some time that the use of NPs could also be used in a variety of contexts. But the relevant to your use case, in the US at least most every county library in the country has a librarian on staff trained as an NP.  They offer them as a public service to their local community. Imagine if these NP’s were trained to provide the service you’re suggesting and they had a custom Notarization App to support them in doing so.

The first thing the library community would ask is who’s going to underwrite the cost of their staff getting trained and provide the software they’ll need to perform this digital NP function?  They’re already overworked and underpaid as a workforce, with the added recent pressures of partisan social agendas making life difficult.

Those are concerns I think solutions can be found to address, however. They could also be as service to help local individuals get their DIDs so they can could participate the VC world we’re seeking to build inclusively.


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On Nov 22, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com<mailto:agropper@healthurl.com>> wrote:

Commenting after Mathieu's excellent presentation today.

We might consider traditional notaries as a (private sector) public good regulated by government across state and national boundaries.

A registered Notary Public:

  *   Is chosen by the Data Principal<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.huntonprivacyblog.com/2022/11/22/india-releases-fourth-draft-of-data-protection-bill/__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!bB4R89V12mzj8fzyxUYcj4VKpsK_k1MaBnLbK-Fqcaism82DthfH-vW905Pb-dZTDbx3h69hAg85IEHNnkk$> (or subject, for short)
  *   Verifies a government issued biometric ID in-person
  *   Establishes a particular transaction as context
  *   Appends their NP ID, signature and seal to the transaction that is also signed by the Data Principal
  *   Maintains a private log of the Data Principal's Foundational ID but not the transaction contents.
  *   Provides access to their private log (under court order?) to a relying party that can produce evidence of the signed transaction.

Note 1: The international trust framework is formed by the governments themselves as a federation. States manage the registry of individual NPs.

Note 2: Although the NP operates in-person (or the technological equivalent thereof) the transaction with the relying party need not be in-person as long as the RP receives an authentic signature and NP ID that can be used to examine the log and prove a link to the Data Principal's Foundational ID.

Note 3: The "match" between the Foundational ID and the identifier of the Data Principal of the transaction as known to the relying party could be "blinded" via the NP log and only revealed to the relying party as part of a dispute.

Note 4: A regulated online NP as a public good will need to establish the link between subject ID in the transaction context and the Foundational ID but can be designed so they do not need to store the context or see the content of the transaction as in this example from India<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brookings.edu/blog/future-development/2022/09/08/give-people-control-of-their-data/__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!bB4R89V12mzj8fzyxUYcj4VKpsK_k1MaBnLbK-Fqcaism82DthfH-vW905Pb-dZTDbx3h69hAg85yPCm6eI$>.


On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 3:02 PM Harrison <harrison@spokeo.com<mailto:harrison@spokeo.com>> wrote:
Main Agenda: Attaining Digital Trust

We are pleased to invite Mathieu Glaude<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathieuglaude/__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!bB4R89V12mzj8fzyxUYcj4VKpsK_k1MaBnLbK-Fqcaism82DthfH-vW905Pb-dZTDbx3h69hAg85VwuOjP8$>, the host of the SSI Orbit<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvYUtLo7lKyee_VnCE3kGr1tqnwtMw0jG__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!bB4R89V12mzj8fzyxUYcj4VKpsK_k1MaBnLbK-Fqcaism82DthfH-vW905Pb-dZTDbx3h69hAg85ajUowMo$> podcast and the CEO of Northern Block<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://northernblock.io/__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!bB4R89V12mzj8fzyxUYcj4VKpsK_k1MaBnLbK-Fqcaism82DthfH-vW905Pb-dZTDbx3h69hAg850_bUMlo$>, to talk about "Attaining Digital Trust" at W3C CCG next Tuesday 11/22/22.  How can we trust claims made digitally?  What infrastructures do we need to build?  Mathieu has interviewed many thought leaders in our community, and I am sure that he will have valuable insights to share on how we can attain digital trust together.

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