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Re: Apple's control over state issued digital IDs

From: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 16:27:25 -0500
Message-ID: <CANYRo8ickoKU-O+vc7Kgwm81BrtxOW-QC710vkx6KdwiEeD0mw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mike Prorock <mprorock@mesur.io>
Cc: Liam McCarty <liam@unum.id>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
That Apple would do this is absolutely predictable:


On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:33 PM Mike Prorock <mprorock@mesur.io> wrote:

> Very strong concerns from our side.  This is one of the big reasons
> (beyond obvious concerns like privacy) to prevent vendor lock in for public
> good items.
> Mike Prorock
> CTO, Founder
> https://mesur.io/
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:11 PM Liam McCarty <liam@unum.id> wrote:
>> CNBC article: Apple is sticking taxpayers with part of the bill for
>> rollout of tech giant’s digital ID card
>> <https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/14/apple-sticking-taxpayers-with-part-of-the-bill-for-digital-id-rollout.html>
>> This is exactly the opposite of what an open, interoperable, Verifiable
>> Credential ecosystem is meant to achieve. Very disheartening.
>> Some choice quotes:
>> *Apple has “sole discretion” for key aspects of the program, including
>> what types of devices will be compatible with the digital IDs, how states
>> are required to report on the performance of the effort, and when the
>> program is launched, according to the documents. Apple even gets to review
>> and approve the marketing that states are required to do.*
>> *The dynamic is similar to the way Apple typically deals with vendors,
>> although instead of getting paid by Apple, the states have to shoulder the
>> financial burden of administering the programs*
>> *All these efforts are paid for by states. The contract says that “except
>> as otherwise agreed upon between the Parties, neither Party shall owe the
>> other Party any fees under this Agreement.”*
>> *The agreements are also notable for what is missing, in terms of
>> constraints or guard rails on how Apple can use the powerful capability of
>> identity verification, according to Mikula. That raises questions about
>> whether the company can restrict access to the new capability for
>> competitors’ products.*
>> Curious what others make of this.
>> *Liam McCarty*
>> Co-Founder of Unum ID <https://www.Unum.ID>
Received on Monday, 15 November 2021 21:27:50 UTC

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