- From: Steve Capell <steve.capell@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 10:05:24 +1000
- To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Cc: public-credentials@w3.org
Thanks for that frank feedback and also those useful links about “thing” VCs manu
My quixotic windmill tilting is duly reigned-in ;)
Steven Capell
Mob: 0410 437854
> On 9 Jun 2021, at 9:50 am, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/8/21 5:45 PM, Steve Capell wrote:
>> These “esoteric” cases represent 99% of my use cases and volumes
>
> Steve, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that there are others in
> this group that don't have the same use cases that you do.
>
> No one seems to have said this yet, so here goes:
>
> Your use cases are not esoteric, there are entire work items dedicated to them
> in the CCG (Traceability), and many of us understand them.
>
> You're tilting at a windmill, mate. :)
>
> You don't need to tilt; you're with friends. :)
>
> There are two types of identifiers under discussion here:
>
> 1. The identifier of the subject.
> 2. The identifier of the Verifiable Credential itself.
>
> Kerri was seeking input on #2 above, you're talking about #1.
>
> There are many more identifiers we could talk about as well... in fact,
> everything enclosed in braces "{...}" in a Verifiable Presentation and
> Verifiable Credential can have an identifier. What the identifier is used for
> is dependent on the type of object being identified.
>
> So, when you say things like this:
>
>> That the group thinks almost exclusively about VCs about people. Whilst I
>> think almost exclusively about VCs about things - and occasionally about
>> businesses.
>
> It's just simply not true:
>
> https://www.cbp.gov/trade/ace/whats-new-innovation
>
> https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Oct/Final-NAFTA-CAFTA-Report.pdf
>
> https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2020-Mar/IPR%20POC%20Report%20-%20Final%20V2.pdf
>
> https://blockchain-europe.enterprisesecuritymageurope.com/cxoinsight/blockchain-a-us-customs-and-border-protection-perspective-nid-1055-cid-107.html
>
> https://www.afcea.org/content/dhs-awards-funds-blockchain-security-technology
>
> https://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2019/11/dhs-silicon-valley-program-makes-two-awards-digital-credentials-management/161368/
>
> https://sphereon.com/dhs-preventing-forgery-and-counterfeiting/
>
> ... and the list goes on... all having to do with your use cases... all
> non-person entities... which Heather probably also has quite a bit to say on
> that particular topic. :)
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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>
>
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