- From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 17:39:06 -0500
- To: "Charles E. Lehner" <charles.lehner@spruceid.com>
- Cc: Mike Prorock <mprorock@mesur.io>, W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACvcBVpdADExKxrk=sNJgAsL7divqt1A0MHpsnaVC-B7tqQTkw@mail.gmail.com>
Some of the msu.edu links are broken. Here is an alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/20070222112705/http://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/McCarthy.pdf . -Brent Shambaugh GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh Website: http://bshambaugh.org/ LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259 Skype: brent.shambaugh Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh WebID: http://bshambaugh.org/foaf.rdf#me On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 5:35 PM Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote: > ValueFlows is based on William McCarthy's Resource Event Agent Model. Lynn > Foster works extensively with Bob and also with Elf Palvik and Pospi. > > Here are a few links I could easily turn up > > [1] https://valueflo.ws/introduction/concepts.html > [2] https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea > (20)McCarthy, William E., The REA Accounting Model: A Generalized > Framework for Accounting Systems in a Shared Data Environment, The > accounting review, Vol. LVLL, No. 3, July 1982, > http://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/McCarthy.pdf > <https://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/McCarthy.pdf> > (21)McCarthy, William E., An REA Model of an Economic Exchange, Michigan > State University, > http://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/cookie--elmo--basic%20REA.ppt > (22)William E. McCarthy, Homepage, http://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4 > (15)Value Network £45 P2P Foundation, Last Modified: July 11, 2012, > http://p2pfoundation.net/Value_Network > (16)Allee, Verna et al., Value Networks and true nature of collaboration, > ValueNet Works and Verna Allee Associates, 2011, > http://www.valuenetworksandcollaboration.com/ > (17)Value Network, http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Value_Network > Last Modified: April 8, 2013 > (18)SENSORICA, http://www.sensorica.co/home > (19)Tiberius Brastaviceanu, Sensorica, an open, decentralized, and > self-organizing value network, May 26, 2011, > http://www.managementexchange.com/story/sensorica-open-enterprise-making > > I hope this helps. > > -Brent Shambaugh > > GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh > Website: http://bshambaugh.org/ > LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259 > Skype: brent.shambaugh > Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh > WebID: http://bshambaugh.org/foaf.rdf#me > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 2:04 PM Charles E. Lehner < > charles.lehner@spruceid.com> wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> Thanks for this informative reply. I have let Bob know. >> >> Charles >> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:56:51 -0400 >> Mike Prorock <mprorock@mesur.io> wrote: >> >> > Excellent callout Charles. Happy to discuss those elements a bit on >> > the intro call. >> > >> > The focus for the call is actually just on the VC side of things, >> > e.g. what are they, and how do they work, along with what is their >> > application in the supply chain world as a "101" level intro into >> > various aspects of the CCG for folks that want to learn about things >> > like Verifiable Credentials, their usage, and how they fit into the >> > CCG. >> > >> > This is, as you have called out, only a tiny piece of what is >> > involved in food and ag traceability: how do we record the properties >> > of various operations and components in the food and ag supply chain, >> > independent of the tracing (both forward and backward) aspects that >> > then link change of control and movement of items through the supply >> > chain. In practice (and this will be touched on in the 101 >> > discussion), VCs are one part of the data being exchanged and stored, >> > in addition to all of the movement data, operations, and other items >> > related to traceability. >> > >> > VCs in supply chain are are typically related to (as in an inspection >> > of a particular pallet), or represent items (package of avocados) >> > that are being traced, and are largely independent of the method used >> > to support the traceability functionality itself, e.g. immutable >> > ledgers storing change of control or product movement, old school >> > database stuff, etc You can think of the VCs in this case as >> > representing the things that tracing is applied to, along with >> > metadata about those things. Effectively they are a means to enable >> > better track and trace. >> > >> > While the VCs and vocabulary items described in the Traceability Vocab >> > Specification themselves are a small piece of the traceability >> > problem, they are an important and fundamental base on which the rest >> > of traceability relies on, and by standardizing on a common language >> > along with providing the ability to verify and securely operate on >> > items described by that language we aid in building a path to where >> > various traceability solutions can better interoperate and exchange >> > information either across commodities, or between different legs on >> > the supply chain. >> > >> > For those interested in the broader issues surrounding traceability >> > and food safety, the FDA has done an excellent job at capturing many >> > aspects of traceability in relation to food safety, along with the >> > data that must be collected to support that traceability in the >> > Proposed Traceability Rule here: >> > >> https://www.fda.gov/food/food-safety-modernization-act-fsma/fsma-proposed-rule-food-traceability >> > >> > I would note that our efforts at mesur.io are supporting the use of >> > VCs to represent data required by the proposed FDA rule, and that >> > ultimately as that rule is finalized, the Traceability Vocab will end >> > up with VCs that represent all aspects covered by the proposed rule, >> > and we welcome collaboration from folks like Bob who clearly also >> > have some experience on food safety and ag track and trace side of >> > things on the Vocab itself: >> > https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab >> > >> > Mike Prorock >> > CTO, Founder >> > https://mesur.io/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:41 AM Charles E. Lehner < >> > charles.lehner@spruceid.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Dear CCG, >> > > >> > > I shared on the Secure Scuttlebutt Network about the upcoming >> > > "Intro to VCs in Supply Chain" and about the Traceability Vocab. >> > > Bob Haugen from Mikorizal Software responded with a question: >> > > >> > > > Looks to me like they are focusing on properties of >> > > > products-to-be-traced, possibly so the actual tracing does not >> > > > need to be done? Or not? >> > > > >> > > > Whereas Valueflows (and my previous experience in actual food >> > > > supply chains) focus on tracing backward through the recorded >> > > > material flows. https://valueflo.ws/appendix/track.html >> > > > >> > > > So if you had verifiable credentials of eg some food that was >> > > > poisoned (eg e. coli contamination), that fact would most likely >> > > > be verified (if at all) only at the point where the poison was >> > > > discovered, but not to the source of the contamination (feeding >> > > > animal body parts to other animals) which would most likely not >> > > > have been verified even then. But by tracing back to the source >> > > > CAFO (Confined Animal Feeding Operation) and in some cases source >> > > > animal, the cause might be determined, and then the destinations >> > > > of the other cuts of the same contaminated animal, or all animals >> > > > from that CAFO, could be found for a recall. >> > > > >> > > > The US Food and Drug Administration (and I expect similar >> > > > institutions in other countries) require all of those tracking and >> > > > tracing records to be preserved and available for reporting. The >> > > > tracking and tracing processes are then something like a web crawl >> > > > through links from one event to the previous or next events.s. >> > > >> > > > [...] But this would be an active issue for us if and only if we >> > > > are working with a network that wants to use VCs. >> > > > >> > > > P.S. my example above was a bit misleading. For feeding animal >> > > > body parts to other animals, the problem would be mad cow disease >> > > > (chronic wasting disease, or prions), and not e. coli. >> > > >> > > Would anyone have an answer or reference I could pass on to Bob? Or >> > > might this be addressed in the 101? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Charles >> > > >> > > >> >>
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