- From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 17:35:27 -0500
- To: "Charles E. Lehner" <charles.lehner@spruceid.com>
- Cc: Mike Prorock <mprorock@mesur.io>, W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
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ValueFlows is based on William McCarthy's Resource Event Agent Model. Lynn Foster works extensively with Bob and also with Elf Palvik and Pospi. Here are a few links I could easily turn up [1] https://valueflo.ws/introduction/concepts.html [2] https://github.com/holo-rea/holo-rea (20)McCarthy, William E., The REA Accounting Model: A Generalized Framework for Accounting Systems in a Shared Data Environment, The accounting review, Vol. LVLL, No. 3, July 1982, http://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/McCarthy.pdf <https://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/McCarthy.pdf> (21)McCarthy, William E., An REA Model of an Economic Exchange, Michigan State University, http://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/cookie--elmo--basic%20REA.ppt (22)William E. McCarthy, Homepage, http://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4 (15)Value Network £45 P2P Foundation, Last Modified: July 11, 2012, http://p2pfoundation.net/Value_Network (16)Allee, Verna et al., Value Networks and true nature of collaboration, ValueNet Works and Verna Allee Associates, 2011, http://www.valuenetworksandcollaboration.com/ (17)Value Network, http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Value_Network Last Modified: April 8, 2013 (18)SENSORICA, http://www.sensorica.co/home (19)Tiberius Brastaviceanu, Sensorica, an open, decentralized, and self-organizing value network, May 26, 2011, http://www.managementexchange.com/story/sensorica-open-enterprise-making I hope this helps. -Brent Shambaugh GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh Website: http://bshambaugh.org/ LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259 Skype: brent.shambaugh Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh WebID: http://bshambaugh.org/foaf.rdf#me On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 2:04 PM Charles E. Lehner < charles.lehner@spruceid.com> wrote: > Mike, > > Thanks for this informative reply. I have let Bob know. > > Charles > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 10:56:51 -0400 > Mike Prorock <mprorock@mesur.io> wrote: > > > Excellent callout Charles. Happy to discuss those elements a bit on > > the intro call. > > > > The focus for the call is actually just on the VC side of things, > > e.g. what are they, and how do they work, along with what is their > > application in the supply chain world as a "101" level intro into > > various aspects of the CCG for folks that want to learn about things > > like Verifiable Credentials, their usage, and how they fit into the > > CCG. > > > > This is, as you have called out, only a tiny piece of what is > > involved in food and ag traceability: how do we record the properties > > of various operations and components in the food and ag supply chain, > > independent of the tracing (both forward and backward) aspects that > > then link change of control and movement of items through the supply > > chain. In practice (and this will be touched on in the 101 > > discussion), VCs are one part of the data being exchanged and stored, > > in addition to all of the movement data, operations, and other items > > related to traceability. > > > > VCs in supply chain are are typically related to (as in an inspection > > of a particular pallet), or represent items (package of avocados) > > that are being traced, and are largely independent of the method used > > to support the traceability functionality itself, e.g. immutable > > ledgers storing change of control or product movement, old school > > database stuff, etc You can think of the VCs in this case as > > representing the things that tracing is applied to, along with > > metadata about those things. Effectively they are a means to enable > > better track and trace. > > > > While the VCs and vocabulary items described in the Traceability Vocab > > Specification themselves are a small piece of the traceability > > problem, they are an important and fundamental base on which the rest > > of traceability relies on, and by standardizing on a common language > > along with providing the ability to verify and securely operate on > > items described by that language we aid in building a path to where > > various traceability solutions can better interoperate and exchange > > information either across commodities, or between different legs on > > the supply chain. > > > > For those interested in the broader issues surrounding traceability > > and food safety, the FDA has done an excellent job at capturing many > > aspects of traceability in relation to food safety, along with the > > data that must be collected to support that traceability in the > > Proposed Traceability Rule here: > > > https://www.fda.gov/food/food-safety-modernization-act-fsma/fsma-proposed-rule-food-traceability > > > > I would note that our efforts at mesur.io are supporting the use of > > VCs to represent data required by the proposed FDA rule, and that > > ultimately as that rule is finalized, the Traceability Vocab will end > > up with VCs that represent all aspects covered by the proposed rule, > > and we welcome collaboration from folks like Bob who clearly also > > have some experience on food safety and ag track and trace side of > > things on the Vocab itself: > > https://github.com/w3c-ccg/traceability-vocab > > > > Mike Prorock > > CTO, Founder > > https://mesur.io/ > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:41 AM Charles E. Lehner < > > charles.lehner@spruceid.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear CCG, > > > > > > I shared on the Secure Scuttlebutt Network about the upcoming > > > "Intro to VCs in Supply Chain" and about the Traceability Vocab. > > > Bob Haugen from Mikorizal Software responded with a question: > > > > > > > Looks to me like they are focusing on properties of > > > > products-to-be-traced, possibly so the actual tracing does not > > > > need to be done? Or not? > > > > > > > > Whereas Valueflows (and my previous experience in actual food > > > > supply chains) focus on tracing backward through the recorded > > > > material flows. https://valueflo.ws/appendix/track.html > > > > > > > > So if you had verifiable credentials of eg some food that was > > > > poisoned (eg e. coli contamination), that fact would most likely > > > > be verified (if at all) only at the point where the poison was > > > > discovered, but not to the source of the contamination (feeding > > > > animal body parts to other animals) which would most likely not > > > > have been verified even then. But by tracing back to the source > > > > CAFO (Confined Animal Feeding Operation) and in some cases source > > > > animal, the cause might be determined, and then the destinations > > > > of the other cuts of the same contaminated animal, or all animals > > > > from that CAFO, could be found for a recall. > > > > > > > > The US Food and Drug Administration (and I expect similar > > > > institutions in other countries) require all of those tracking and > > > > tracing records to be preserved and available for reporting. The > > > > tracking and tracing processes are then something like a web crawl > > > > through links from one event to the previous or next events.s. > > > > > > > [...] But this would be an active issue for us if and only if we > > > > are working with a network that wants to use VCs. > > > > > > > > P.S. my example above was a bit misleading. For feeding animal > > > > body parts to other animals, the problem would be mad cow disease > > > > (chronic wasting disease, or prions), and not e. coli. > > > > > > Would anyone have an answer or reference I could pass on to Bob? Or > > > might this be addressed in the 101? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Charles > > > > > > > >
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