- From: Yancy <email@yancy.lol>
- Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:53:01 -0500
- To: public-credentials@w3.org
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Kim, It would be healthier imo to investigate contracting out development and maintenance of a Jitsi instance to one or more people in the community, or pay for a service that is more in agreement with the community ethos. In other-words, lets help pay people for their time for a service we depend. Dan -- I still prefer Bitcoin over Gitcoin ;) -Yancy On 10/26/20 12:36 PM, Daniel Burnett wrote: > This may not be what Yancy had in mind, but GitCoin bounties are an > option if there are some funds: https://gitcoin.co/bounties/funder > <https://gitcoin.co/bounties/funder> > > Depends on how much we want to open up development to folks outside of > the community at this stage. Might be too early. > > -- dan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 1:12 PM > *To:* Yancy <email@yancy.lol> > *Cc:* W3C Credentials CG (Public List) <public-credentials@w3.org> > *Subject:* Re: Zoom is shite > Hi Yancy -- can you share more about what you had in mind? > Thanks, > Kim > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:03 AM Yancy <email@yancy.lol> wrote: > > Previously I volunteered to help with Jitsi integration, and at > the time, there was discussion about paying for Zoom premium > through proceeds from DIF for example. If there is money to > allocate for buying premium hosting from organizations like Zoom, > it seems like we could instead funnel some of those proceeds to > help pay volunteers to focus their time. I too would like to see > a video service that more aligns with the W3C CCG community ethos, > but I think we can organize our efforts so unpaid volunteers need > not shoulder the technical burden. > > -Yancy > > On 10/26/20 11:43 AM, Heather Vescent wrote: >> Ryan, Amy, >> >> Feel free to volunteer to assist in the Jitsi transition. Current >> unpaid volunteers include all three chairs, Manu & the Jitsi >> team. We are clocking minimum 1-7+ hours *each* per week. >> >> If Jitsi is to be a feasible long term solution, we will need >> dedicated volunteers to navigate/upgrade/fix bugs/etc on an >> ongoing basis, since I don't see operational stability provided >> by the Jitsi solution. So, as I wrote in the first sentence, >> there is a rich opportunity for _you_ to put effort where your >> typing is and actively support the vision of the future you want, >> rather than complain about not getting your desired experience >> without putting any effort towards it that I have seen to date. >> >> -Heather >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 2:05 AM rhiaro <amy@rhiaro.co.uk >> <mailto:amy@rhiaro.co.uk>> wrote: >> >> I am also disappointed to not be able to attend due to these >> reasons >> about Zoom, as I was looking forward to hearing about IIW. I hope >> someone there will be able to take notes, I'll be present in IRC. >> >> Amy >> >> On 26.10.2020. 07:07, Ryan Grant wrote: >> > Hi Everyone, >> > >> > I would like to attend the next W3C-CCG meeting, sure to be >> full of >> > juicy IIW news, but I won't be able to attend using Zoom, or >> > POTS-routed-through-Zoom. >> > >> > I uninstalled Zoom after their horrible vulnerability in >> July of 2019. >> > >> > >> https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras >> <https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras> >> > >> > Today, security researcher Jonathan Leitschuh has publicly >> > disclosed a serious zero-day vulnerability for the Zoom >> video >> > conferencing app on Macs. He has demonstrated that any >> website >> > can open up a video-enabled call on a Mac with the Zoom app >> > installed. That's possible in part because the Zoom app >> > apparently installs a web server on Macs that accepts >> requests >> > regular browsers wouldn't. In fact, if you uninstall >> Zoom, that >> > web server persists and can reinstall Zoom without your >> > intervention. >> > >> > I have never reinstalled it, because you don't make a >> "mistake" like >> > that if you're moderately culturally aligned with security. >> > >> > I was glad I didn't reinstall it when I found out in April >> that Zoom >> > was actively using servers under CCP jurisdiction. You >> don't make a >> > "mistake" like that if you care about privacy. >> > >> > >> https://www.secureworldexpo.com/industry-news/zoom-traffic-through-china-data-routing-controls >> <https://www.secureworldexpo.com/industry-news/zoom-traffic-through-china-data-routing-controls> >> > >> > [...] >> > >> > Zoom was routing some of its virtual meeting traffic, >> and the >> > digital keys that keep the meetings confidential, >> through servers >> > in China. >> > >> > I was sad today to hear that Zoom is actively censoring paying >> > customers who talk about political things that Zoom does >> not want >> > discussed. You don't silence people by "mistake". >> > >> > >> https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/zoom-deleted-events-censorship >> <https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/zoom-deleted-events-censorship> >> > >> > Zoom Deleted Events Discussing Zoom “Censorship” >> > >> > The action follows the company canceling an event at San >> > Francisco State University where Leila Khalid was >> meant to give >> > a talk. >> > >> > on | October 24, 2020 >> > by | Jane Lytvynenko >> > >> > [...] “Zoom is committed to supporting the open >> exchange of ideas >> > and conversations and does not have any policy >> preventing users >> > from criticizing Zoom,” a spokesperson for the company >> said. >> > >> > [...] >> > >> > However, Zoom did not respond to questions about which >> specific >> > policy was violated or whether other events have been >> shut down by >> > the company. >> > >> > Adam Saeed, a student at University of Leeds, said he >> used his >> > personal Zoom account to organize the event. He told >> BuzzFeed >> > News that the company deleted his event and disabled >> his account >> > without explanation. He contacted the company's >> customer support >> > line, but said he has not yet heard back. >> > >> > Sometimes there's a lot of peer pressure to do a Zoom call. >> > I won't make the mistake of attending. >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Heather Vescent <http://www.heathervescent.com/> >> Co-Chair, Credentials Community Group @W3C >> <https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/> >> President, The Purple Tornado, Inc <https://thepurpletornado.com/> >> Author, The Secret of Spies <https://amzn.to/2GfJpXH> (Available >> Oct 2020) >> Author, The Cyber Attack Survival Manual >> <https://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Attack-Survival-Manual-Apocalypse/dp/1681886545/> (revised, >> Dec 2020) >> Author, A Comprehensive Guide to Self Sovereign Identity >> <https://ssiscoop.com/> >> >> @heathervescent <https://twitter.com/heathervescent> | Film >> Futures <https://vimeo.com/heathervescent> | Medium >> <https://medium.com/@heathervescent/> | LinkedIn >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathervescent/> | Future of >> Security Updates <https://app.convertkit.com/landing_pages/325779/> >
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