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Re: Zoom is shite

From: rhiaro <amy@rhiaro.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 09:02:15 +0000
To: public-credentials@w3.org
Message-ID: <36fb5adb-fe60-9ed1-787d-4ae26f4fe203@rhiaro.co.uk>
I am also disappointed to not be able to attend due to these reasons
about Zoom, as I was looking forward to hearing about IIW. I hope
someone there will be able to take notes, I'll be present in IRC.


On 26.10.2020. 07:07, Ryan Grant wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> I would like to attend the next W3C-CCG meeting, sure to be full of
> juicy IIW news, but I won't be able to attend using Zoom, or
> POTS-routed-through-Zoom.
> I uninstalled Zoom after their horrible vulnerability in July of 2019.
>   https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras
>     Today, security researcher Jonathan Leitschuh has publicly
>     disclosed a serious zero-day vulnerability for the Zoom video
>     conferencing app on Macs.  He has demonstrated that any website
>     can open up a video-enabled call on a Mac with the Zoom app
>     installed.  That's possible in part because the Zoom app
>     apparently installs a web server on Macs that accepts requests
>     regular browsers wouldn't.  In fact, if you uninstall Zoom, that
>     web server persists and can reinstall Zoom without your
>     intervention.
> I have never reinstalled it, because you don't make a "mistake" like
> that if you're moderately culturally aligned with security.
> I was glad I didn't reinstall it when I found out in April that Zoom
> was actively using servers under CCP jurisdiction.  You don't make a
> "mistake" like that if you care about privacy.
>   https://www.secureworldexpo.com/industry-news/zoom-traffic-through-china-data-routing-controls
>     [...]
>     Zoom was routing some of its virtual meeting traffic, and the
>     digital keys that keep the meetings confidential, through servers
>     in China.
> I was sad today to hear that Zoom is actively censoring paying
> customers who talk about political things that Zoom does not want
> discussed.  You don't silence people by "mistake".
>   https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/zoom-deleted-events-censorship
>     Zoom Deleted Events Discussing Zoom “Censorship”
>       The action follows the company canceling an event at San
>       Francisco State University where Leila Khalid was meant to give
>       a talk.
>     on | October 24, 2020
>     by | Jane Lytvynenko
>     [...]  “Zoom is committed to supporting the open exchange of ideas
>     and conversations and does not have any policy preventing users
>     from criticizing Zoom,” a spokesperson for the company said.
>     [...]
>     However, Zoom did not respond to questions about which specific
>     policy was violated or whether other events have been shut down by
>     the company.
>     Adam Saeed, a student at University of Leeds, said he used his
>     personal Zoom account to organize the event.  He told BuzzFeed
>     News that the company deleted his event and disabled his account
>     without explanation.  He contacted the company's customer support
>     line, but said he has not yet heard back.
> Sometimes there's a lot of peer pressure to do a Zoom call.
> I won't make the mistake of attending.
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