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Zoom is shite

From: Ryan Grant <w3c@rgrant.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 07:07:13 +0000
Message-ID: <CAMnpzfr91miseiWc86QswuML1et2O2MihV+ruavEvFv1oYH-gw@mail.gmail.com>
To: W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
Hi Everyone,

I would like to attend the next W3C-CCG meeting, sure to be full of
juicy IIW news, but I won't be able to attend using Zoom, or
POTS-routed-through-Zoom.

I uninstalled Zoom after their horrible vulnerability in July of 2019.

  https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras

    Today, security researcher Jonathan Leitschuh has publicly
    disclosed a serious zero-day vulnerability for the Zoom video
    conferencing app on Macs.  He has demonstrated that any website
    can open up a video-enabled call on a Mac with the Zoom app
    installed.  That's possible in part because the Zoom app
    apparently installs a web server on Macs that accepts requests
    regular browsers wouldn't.  In fact, if you uninstall Zoom, that
    web server persists and can reinstall Zoom without your
    intervention.

I have never reinstalled it, because you don't make a "mistake" like
that if you're moderately culturally aligned with security.

I was glad I didn't reinstall it when I found out in April that Zoom
was actively using servers under CCP jurisdiction.  You don't make a
"mistake" like that if you care about privacy.

  https://www.secureworldexpo.com/industry-news/zoom-traffic-through-china-data-routing-controls

    [...]

    Zoom was routing some of its virtual meeting traffic, and the
    digital keys that keep the meetings confidential, through servers
    in China.

I was sad today to hear that Zoom is actively censoring paying
customers who talk about political things that Zoom does not want
discussed.  You don't silence people by "mistake".

  https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/zoom-deleted-events-censorship

    Zoom Deleted Events Discussing Zoom “Censorship”

      The action follows the company canceling an event at San
      Francisco State University where Leila Khalid was meant to give
      a talk.

    on | October 24, 2020
    by | Jane Lytvynenko

    [...]  “Zoom is committed to supporting the open exchange of ideas
    and conversations and does not have any policy preventing users
    from criticizing Zoom,” a spokesperson for the company said.

    [...]

    However, Zoom did not respond to questions about which specific
    policy was violated or whether other events have been shut down by
    the company.

    Adam Saeed, a student at University of Leeds, said he used his
    personal Zoom account to organize the event.  He told BuzzFeed
    News that the company deleted his event and disabled his account
    without explanation.  He contacted the company's customer support
    line, but said he has not yet heard back.

Sometimes there's a lot of peer pressure to do a Zoom call.
I won't make the mistake of attending.
Received on Monday, 26 October 2020 07:07:54 UTC

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