Re: ditch voip/sip

Every alternative to Zoom that I've experienced adds friction for the
average attendee. The issue seems to be, how much friction will we tolerate
on average in order to respect the serious concerns of a few? I will
survive either way.

- Adrian

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 1:53 PM Rouven Heck <rouven.heck@consensys.net>
wrote:

> Heather, I agree - something which reduces the friction for most people to
> join is important. I personally had often trouble to attend calls because I
> need SIP only for these calls, not in any other context. Many communities
> seem pretty happy (at least for now) with Zoom - it's used in Hyperledger,
> DIF, CCI, etc.
>
> Manu, I don't think there is a vendor lock-in risk with Zoom or OtterAi.
> -> all recordings from Zoom can be stored in mp4 format and transcripts
> chat & Otter in generic text formats that could be stored on a wiki, etc.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 7:26 PM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/28/20 10:53 AM, rhiaro wrote:
>> > Also I've had good success with hosted jitsi - which is open source, and
>> > can be self-hosted - with medium-sized groups. Their hosted version
>> > should support 35 people well (with video, I presume more with audio)
>> > and I think if you self-host it and set it up right it supports a lot
>> > more (I haven't tried this yet though). Jitsi also has screensharing,
>> > chat and hand-raising features.
>>
>> Agreed, was just thinking along the same lines. If folks want to move to
>> another platform, let's please not move to a proprietary solution (Zoom
>> + otter.ai).
>>
>> Jitsi is open standards, open source, supports automatic transcription
>> via jigasi, and would (potentially) integrate more cleanly with existing
>> tooling. It would probably not cost much more than what we're doing
>> right now and DB would be willing to pick up that cost.
>>
>> Here's the thing that's always stopped us -- someone has to commit to
>> setting this system up and running it for years (the current system has
>> been in place for over 6 years now).
>>
>> I remember when AOL was going to be around forever and folks migrated to
>> their services entirely? Remember Google+, all that content, gone.
>> Accessibility and archival matter. What happens when otter.ai fails, do
>> we still have all of our transcripts on infrastructure we have control of?
>>
>> My fear is the community is going to go for the easiest choice and get
>> vendor locked in w/o considering the ramifications of what that means to
>> the archives and work output of this community.
>>
>> -- manu
>>
>> --
>> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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