Re: Privacy-protecting contact tracer for COVID-19? [was Re: A Moment of Silence #Foremembrance Today at 19:06 CET, 2:06 pm EDT, 11:06 am PDT, and Saturday at 2:06am in Hong Kong & Taipei]

Moses
I am not an epidemiologist and I dont know one off the bat but
I am an expert systems designer and my expertise is about extracting
expertise
from human experts, I may have access to the required expertise through
knowledge bases
You may need expertise of the epidiemiologist rather than the human itself
then let me know maybe I can help - what are the questions you need
answered?

P

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:07 AM Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for this input.
>
> FYI, I know this already, it's not a spoiler. Again, I'm trying to partner
> up with a notable epidemiologist on this, who could provide solid bankable
> guidance. If any of you know one, please introduce me. We'll probably have
> better luck finding on via the IEEE blockchains in healthcare working group?
>
> Anyway, my thinking is to do two releases... the first with only simple
> contact tracing and no DIDs asap, and the second with VCs, location
> analysis and support for antibody testing...  down the road when the
> science is ready. But the key is to *plan* for forthcoming functionality
> in the underlying foundational design and data structures up front. This
> would make us proactive rather than reactive, like the US federal
> government has been.
>
> FYI, Fauci recently "guessed" that immunity would be likely, maybe for 1-2
> years, but then he qualified the statement by adding that this was a
> personal "hope", and we won't know for sure until the science is done. A
> lot depends on how fast the virus mutates, which by the way, seems to be
> mutating into something less deadly but more contagious.
>
> Anyway, my point is that we don't need to "wait" to plan intelligently and
> base the design on science... this are the core errors in Trump's logic, he
> tends to wait and he does not believe in science. And why I think the Trump
> will screw up contact tracing apps just like they have with everything else.
>
> MM
>
> PS, *another idea: *it might be interesting to give VCs to CDC
> intelligence officers to give them access into contact sharing databases.
> These would be revocable after the pandemic is over, and could
> theoretically be attenuated when delegated to support staff.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/30/20 9:21 AM, Ian Smith wrote:
>
> spoiler alert, coronavirus antibodies for MERS last 8 to 10 years, SARS 1
> to 2 years, swine flu months, "standard flu " months. covid-19 has been
> potentially false reported as having a 2 week immunity in some people. IGF
> and IGM antibodies are also different time scales. The ability to increase
> production of antibodies after they fall but are still known how to make
> may or may not less to contagion periods. We need to wait for science.
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 12:01 PM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 04:38, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/20 11:18 PM, Moses Ma wrote:
>>> > How do y’all feel about Singapore’s TraceTogether?
>>> > See:
>>> >
>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/singapore-coronavirus-app-tracking-testing-no-shutdown-how-it-works-2020-3
>>> > Also:
>>> >
>>> https://www.tech.gov.sg/media/technews/tracetogether-behind-the-scenes-look-at-its-development-process
>>> >
>>> > How would you design a fully decentralized contact tracer?
>>>
>>> Or, more broadly: how would you design a privacy-protecting contact
>>> tracer?  This is urgently needed.
>>>
>>> Potential variations: 1. The app notifies you if it determines that you
>>> may have been exposed to COVID-19, without saying how it made that
>>> determination.  2. The app notifies healthcare officials that you may
>>> have been exposed, without telling them how it made that determination.
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>>
>>> David Booth
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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