Re: Privacy-protecting contact tracer for COVID-19?

Cell phone position is tracked both in antenna by IMEI, and in the phone to
identify the strongest antenna signal. The GPS from satellite "location
service" is a passive signal retrieved by the phone.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 4:24 PM Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>
wrote:

> *The compute necessary to do that calculation boggles the mind (but I*
> * expect might work just fine if off-loaded to a decentralized system).*
>
> These are exactly the kinds of problems that my optimization team loves.
> For example, one fellow on our team:
>
> *Dr. Fred Glover is the inventor of Quantum Bridge Analytics. Formerly,
> Distinguished Professor, Emeritus, at the University of Colorado, Boulder.
> He has authored more than 500 published articles and eight books in the
> fields of mathematical optimization and artificial intelligence, and is the
> recipient of the von Neumann Theory Prize, the highest honor of the
> Institute of Operations Research and Management Science. He pioneered the
> development and commercialization of specialized solutions for such network
> problem classes as shortest path, assignment, transportation, capacitated
> transshipment, generalized network and linear programming embedded networks
> problems. The breakthroughs from this work have been adopted by over fifty
> government agencies and Fortune 500 companies.*
>
> *Fred developed the first efficient methods for solving networks with
> millions of variables. His work for the U.S. Treasury solved problems
> containing over 60,000,000 variables, to evaluate the fiscal impact of
> taxation, welfare and social security policy. The U.S. Army conducted an
> extensive study showing that these algorithms made it possible to solve
> optimally multi-criteria personnel assignment problems with 8,000 people
> and over a million eligible job assignments in less than 15 minutes. These
> algorithms have been used extensively by the Army Military Personnel Center
> in the reassignment of enlisted personnel.*
>
> It's important that we not avoid problems that boggle our minds, and seek
> to work with others who are smarter than we are. This is why I'm appealing
> to y'all, because you are smarter than I am on this DID stuff.
>
> We are definitely focusing on things like viruses surviving on plastic and
> metal surfaces for 2-3 days, and what it means for location-aware contract
> tracing.
>
> Moses
>
>
>
>
> On 3/29/20 2:53 PM, Brent Shambaugh wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/28/20 7:15 AM, Ouri Poupko wrote:
>> > They do this iteratively for any overlapping sub-segments, until they
>> > get an intersecting point (2m radius) between their true paths.
>>
>> This is a great conversation, demonstrating that a non-trivial number of
>> people in the W3C CCG community have put a lot of thought into this topic.
>>
>> I'm curious if folks have figured out how to address one of the hardest
>> aspects of this problem -- that SARS-CoV-2 can survive on plastic and
>> metal surfaces for up to 2-3 days:
>>
>> https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973
>>
>> Is it just a matter of seeing if you've entered the same cell as someone
>> that was infected in the past 3 days (possibly touching a surface that
>> they touched)?
>>
>
> This reminds me of an article that I read a few weeks ago. Copper
> apparently is anti-viral. It is also a good electrical conductor. :)
>
> https://www.fastcompany.com/90476550/copper-kills-coronavirus-why-arent-our-surfaces-covered-in-it
>
>
>>
>> The compute necessary to do that calculation boggles the mind (but I
>> expect might work just fine if off-loaded to a decentralized system).
>>
>> -- manu
>>
>> --
>> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
>> https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
>>
>>
> --
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