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[MINUTES] W3C CCG Verifiable Credentials for Education Task Force Call - 2020-06-15 12pm ET

From: W3C CCG Chairs <w3c.ccg@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 19:41:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Thanks to James Chartrand for scribing this week! The minutes
for this week's CCG Verifiable Credentials for Education Task Force telecon are now available:

https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-06-15/

Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes.
Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below).

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CCG Verifiable Credentials for Education Task Force Telecon Minutes for 2020-06-15

Agenda:
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Topics:
  1. Introduction & Reintroductions
  2. European Blockchain Services Infrastructure
Organizer:
  Joe Andrieu and Kim Hamilton Duffy and Christopher Allen
Scribe:
  James Chartrand
Present:
  Lluís Alfons Ariño, Uli Gallersdörfer, Kim Hamilton Duffy, Simone 
  Ravaoli, Alex Jackl, Jim Goodell, Blaž Podgorelec, Tzviya 
  Siegman, Nate Otto, Dmitri Zagidulin, Alexander Mikroyannidis, 
  Alen Horvat, Vincent Langard, James Chartrand, Juan Caballero, 
  Adam Lemmon, Chris Winczewski, Daniel Du Seuil, Dominik Beron, 
  Eugen Rochko, Jerry Gordon, Joshua Marks, Karen O'Donoghue, 
  loveish, Erik Anderson, Jim Kelly
Audio:
  https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-06-15/audio.ogg

Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/join
Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://www.w3.org/accounts/request
Kim Hamilton Duffy: 
  https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/cla/
Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/
James Chartrand is scribing.

Topic: Introduction & Reintroductions

Vincent Langard:  Intros building blockchain VC solution for 
  higher ed
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Reintroduction Dmitri Zagidulin
Dmitri Zagidulin:  Intro involved in many specs, interested in 
  credentials around education and other areas.  interested in 
  building bridges between communities

Topic: European Blockchain Services Infrastructure

Lluís Alfons Ariño: 
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qyK6IZKjklWFPx0oZyR_qk1um6TeRwze/view?usp=sharing
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Intro of talk
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Intro daniel
Dominik Beron:  Intro business analyst and expert on project
Alen Horvat:  Working on project
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Background on EDCI
Lluís Alfons Ariño:   Slide 7 use cases
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Slide 8
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Slide 9 - EBSI timeline
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Slide 10
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Slide 12 overview
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Slide 13 - underlying tech - VC, identity
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Slide 14
Speaker nickname?
Blaž Podgorelec: @James - Daniel_Du_Seuil
Daniel Du Seuil:  Want more standardized interactions through 
  VCs, VPs - slide 15
Daniel Du Seuil:  Will need shared infrastructure, e.g., ledgers
Daniel Du Seuil:  Working on version 2, working with market to 
  ensure right focus
Kim Hamilton Duffy: 
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qyK6IZKjklWFPx0oZyR_qk1um6TeRwze/view
Erik's nickname?
Lluís Alfons Ariño: Erik Van Zuuren
Kim Hamilton Duffy: James -- he's not in irc now. Just call him 
  Erik
Erik Van Zuuren: overview of legal requirements with electronic 
  identities - slide 17
Erik Anderson:  Description of ESSIF VC
Erik Anderson:  Slide 18
Daniel Du Seuil:  Overview of ESSIF vs eIDAS
Daniel Du Seuil:  Slide 19
Daniel Du Seuil:  Overview of cross border interactions
Daniel Du Seuil: The complete legal report on link ssi-eidas can 
  be found at 
  https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/ssi-eidas-bridge
Lluís Alfons Ariño: Slide 20
Daniel Du Seuil:  Slide 20 - feature roadmap
Daniel Du Seuil:  For ESSIF under eIDAS
Daniel Du Seuil:  Slide 21
Daniel Du Seuil:  We can provide more elaborate legal report
Daniel Du Seuil:  We will be sharing in the next month
Lluís Alfons Ariño:  Open for questions
Kim Hamilton Duffy:  Question about slide 16
Kim Hamilton Duffy:  Verifiable credential hashes - how do they 
  work with right to erasure, permanence.  is a hash sufficiently 
  de-identified.  what tradeoffs did you make.  what determinations 
  did you make re: GDPR
Daniel Du Seuil:  Will share GDPR study.  want to limit what can 
  be traced back to individual.  We don't put VC on ledger, just 
  the hash, maybe with start and end date.  doesn't show VC itself, 
  just like a fingerprint
Erik Anderson:  Ongoing discussions re GDPR
Erik Anderson:  Looking at legal implications.  might put 
  pseudonyms for certain cases on ledger
Erik Anderson:  GDPR is a concern.  bottom line we do put things 
  on ledger but minimize correlation
Nate Otto:  Question about VC and DIDs on slide 17.  what DID 
  method is used and how id for individual is provisioned for 
  individual
Erik Anderson:  Not cast in stone yet.  we will allow users to 
  create their own DIDs, and own wallets, but will put minimal 
  requirements for DIDs.  DIDs need to be unique and you must be 
  able to show control.  Will be used for authentication and we 
  have minimal standards
Erik Anderson:  To meet legal requirements
Erik Anderson:   Exact format of DIDs are being fine tuned.
Kim Hamilton Duffy:  Anthony asked about VCs in XML to satisfy 
  legal binding signatures.  How can we help - can CCG express XML 
  serialization to help you?
Kim Hamilton Duffy:  Maybe jsonLD sigs would be acceptable.  what 
  do you think we can do to help you.
Erik Anderson:  Yes, we can align work.
Kim Hamilton Duffy:  With PESC XML transcripts we may have use 
  cases that need XML VC support.  we've had discussions on mailing 
  list.  starting to understand it is all doable.  wondering about 
  overall priorities
Erik Anderson:  Would be great to collaborate.  will have initial 
  study available next week
Kim Hamilton Duffy:  In slide 17, W3C peer did is mentioned.  is 
  that a work in progress?  are peer kids something you looked into 
  and how will you use?
Daniel Du Seuil:  Peer dis are very interesting - less tracking, 
  more secure, more privacy.  following interactions.  valuable 
  concept to follow.
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Reference on peer dids: 
  https://www.slideshare.net/SSIMeetup/peer-dids-a-secure-and-scalable-method-for-dids-thats-entirely-offledger-daniel-hardman
Kim Hamilton Duffy: @Blazp I will read it
Blaž Podgorelec: @Kimhd thank you!
Dominik Beron:  Everything boils down to privacy.  legal entities 
  are less problematic than actual persons.  peer dids aren
Dominik Beron:  Aren't necessarily stable.  We are looking at it.
Erik Anderson:  Much easier to implement anywise DID but might 
  have GDPR issues - don't want to allow correlations.  if we 
  correlate to a single number we will not get a good GDPR report.
Erik Anderson:  We think we might have to go to peer dids
Erik Anderson:  A single European number is dangerous.  a 
  verifiable id can be used with legal effect
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