- From: Nathan Aw <nathan.mk.aw@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:06:17 +0800
- To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
- Cc: carlos@selfkey.org, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, steven_rowat@sunshine.net, W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+p-ctYUR6uZ5gh-kheiyWbG7i+CeF-YKds_iRxuQ_hrndvdGw@mail.gmail.com>
Thanks all for the extremely useful inputs -- How, then, can we speed up this paradigm shift? What are some practical next steps individuals/organisations can take to accelerate this shift? Say 3 steps. To get to mass adoption. I have listed down what I think -- would be awesome to gather more thoughts. 1. Contributing Code 2. Small Scale Use/Experimentation 3. Mind Sharing through meetups, etc -- Evangelising the concept and solution. Regards, Nathan Aw On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:27 PM Anders Rundgren < anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote: > One thing you need to clarify is the relation between your work and > FIDO2/WebAuthentication since the latter is the only thing the platform > vendors [currently] plan to support out of the box. > > If you rely on custom client software, you are likely to face adoption > hurdles. Personally, I'm singularly targeting "phones" as credential > holders. Unfortunately, if you don't buy 100% into the > FIDO2/WebAuthentication paradigm (I don't since its domain centric model > requires IdPs to scale), you end up with imperfections like QR codes for > interacting with desktop Web applications. > > Anders > https://cyberphone.github.io/doc/mobile-id/ui-demo/ > > On 2018-11-20 04:32, Carlos Bruguera wrote: > > “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents > > and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents > > eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with > it.” > > > > > > This reminds me of a quote from R. Buckminster Fuller that I like very > much: > > > > /“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. > > To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model > obsolete.” / > > > > I think that accurately describes the nature of /disruption../. In my > opinion SSID can't be seen as a "killer app" because it's much more than an > app, it's a paradigm (built over a set of interconnected platforms) in > which blockhain technology is a key component at this point. "Killer apps" > will be built /on top/ of SSID platforms, and these are what will give > "life" to SSID (and its underlying technologies) through empowering > individuals and organizations with regard to identity ownership. Once > /identity owners/ are empowered through self-sovereign applications, the > current systems that operate around identity will have no choice but to > adopt, adapt and contribute. This is not too different from the role of > cryptocurrency in the context of financial activity. This "adaptation" is a > process, though, quite unlikely to happen abruptly. > > > > SSID in itself is a concept and a paradigm, sort of a "meta-app" so to > speak, no one will "buy" it as such. Yet it's a recognized necessity on the > digital world, and IMO its "essence" will remain even if its underlying > technology shifts from blockchain to a different (probably more efficient) > thing. What seems to matter is decentralization, immutability and sound > cryptographic proof mechanisms. Presently, DLT is the most obvious answer > to our implementation needs, and surely this might not be the case forever. > In any case, the need for things like decentralized identity (along with > decentralized money, etc.) will remain regardless of the technical paradigm > that sustains them... Blockchain is an opening gate to a conceptual space > of empowerment through decentralization and trust in mathematics /in lieu/ > of authorities, and this "space" is what is "alive", it can (and most > probably will) take many shapes in the future, but there's still *much* to > learn and do on its current > > "presentation". > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 3:26 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote: > > > > On 11/18/18 1:58 PM, Steven Rowat wrote: > > > Then minor changes in it can be made to accommodate existing > > > systems, to the degree that's possible. > > > > Excellent point, Steven. I agree with your correction. > > > > -- manu > > > > -- > > Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) > > Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. > > blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches > > https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches > > > > > > >
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