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Re: Is Decentralized Identity/Self-Sovereign Identity (SSI) the killer application for blockchain/DLT?

From: Nathan Aw <nathan.mk.aw@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:06:17 +0800
Message-ID: <CA+p-ctYUR6uZ5gh-kheiyWbG7i+CeF-YKds_iRxuQ_hrndvdGw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
Cc: carlos@selfkey.org, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, steven_rowat@sunshine.net, W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
Thanks all for the extremely useful inputs -- How, then, can we speed up
this paradigm shift?

What are some practical next steps individuals/organisations can take to
accelerate this shift? Say 3 steps. To get to mass adoption. I have listed
down what I think -- would be awesome to gather more thoughts.

1. Contributing Code
2. Small Scale Use/Experimentation
3. Mind Sharing through meetups, etc -- Evangelising the concept and


Nathan Aw

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:27 PM Anders Rundgren <
anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:

> One thing you need to clarify is the relation between your work and
> FIDO2/WebAuthentication since the latter is the only thing the platform
> vendors [currently] plan to support out of the box.
> If you rely on custom client software, you are likely to face adoption
> hurdles.  Personally, I'm singularly targeting "phones" as credential
> holders.  Unfortunately, if you don't buy 100% into the
> FIDO2/WebAuthentication paradigm (I don't since its domain centric model
> requires IdPs to scale), you end up with imperfections like QR codes for
> interacting with desktop Web applications.
> Anders
> https://cyberphone.github.io/doc/mobile-id/ui-demo/
> On 2018-11-20 04:32, Carlos Bruguera wrote:
> >     “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents
> >     and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents
> >     eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with
> it.”
> >
> >
> > This reminds me of a quote from R. Buckminster Fuller that I like very
> much:
> >
> > /“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
> > To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model
> obsolete.” /
> >
> > I think that accurately describes the nature of /disruption../. In my
> opinion SSID can't be seen as a "killer app" because it's much more than an
> app, it's a paradigm (built over a set of interconnected platforms) in
> which blockhain technology is a key component at this point. "Killer apps"
> will be built /on top/ of SSID platforms, and these are what will give
> "life" to SSID (and its underlying technologies) through empowering
> individuals and organizations with regard to identity ownership. Once
> /identity owners/ are empowered through self-sovereign applications, the
> current systems that operate around identity will have no choice but to
> adopt, adapt and contribute. This is not too different from the role of
> cryptocurrency in the context of financial activity. This "adaptation" is a
> process, though, quite unlikely to happen abruptly.
> >
> > SSID in itself is a concept and a paradigm, sort of a "meta-app" so to
> speak, no one will "buy" it as such. Yet it's a recognized necessity on the
> digital world, and IMO its "essence" will remain even if its underlying
> technology shifts from blockchain to a different (probably more efficient)
> thing. What seems to matter is decentralization, immutability and sound
> cryptographic proof mechanisms. Presently, DLT is the most obvious answer
> to our implementation needs, and surely this might not be the case forever.
> In any case, the need for things like decentralized identity (along with
> decentralized money, etc.) will remain regardless of the technical paradigm
> that sustains them... Blockchain is an opening gate to a conceptual space
> of empowerment through decentralization and trust in mathematics /in lieu/
> of authorities, and this "space" is what is "alive", it can (and most
> probably will) take many shapes in the future, but there's still *much* to
> learn and do on its current
> > "presentation".
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 3:26 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 11/18/18 1:58 PM, Steven Rowat wrote:
> >      > Then minor changes in it can be made to accommodate existing
> >      > systems, to the degree that's possible.
> >
> >     Excellent point, Steven. I agree with your correction.
> >
> >     -- manu
> >
> >     --
> >     Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> >     Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> >     blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
> >     https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
> >
> >
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