- From: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:02:55 -0500
- To: W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Cc: Philip Sheldrake <me@philipsheldrake.com>, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
- Message-ID: <CANYRo8gZop86MZgecKN99fbd4vZ2b0LCsFy09tmg-U_JrD--zQ@mail.gmail.com>
This is an extremely difficult problem that some in the communities I attend have devoted years of work to. My favorite of these kinds of inquiries is The Digital Life Collective https://diglife.com/ It's a work-in-progress trying to address this multi-faceted problem. I'm not in the same boat as Kaliya and Heather but, like many of us working on decentralized tech, I'm hoping to benefit from collaboration with like-minded folks including diglife. Adrian On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:43 PM Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net> wrote: > Dear CCG, > > In the text, this section of this week's discussion looks like it was > quite difficult—about fair compensation for work done—and I have a > suggestion, given afterwards. > > On 2018-11-16 7:03 PM, kim@learningmachine.com wrote: > > Heather Vescent:… in our conversations, everyone has an idea of how you > should > > do it > > ...snip... > > ... > > … but I can't, the last time I did that, I was exploited. I'm > > traumatized by this now > >...snip > > Heather Vescent: Right - so why don't we work together to ensure > > this doesn't happen. Why can't we work together to solve this > > problems for us all? > > > > Manu Sporny: I think the issue is that we don't know/how/ to > > solve the problem, heathervescent. > > > Ironically, this problem—fair compensation for digitized work—was part > of the reason I joined Web Payments in the first place. > > And I think asking for it to be solved now, before DIDs exist, turns > it into a chicken-and-egg problem. > > That is, Heather and Kaliya would like to be fairly compensated, but > so would Manu, and many others; including people working on digital > things that have nothing to do with DIDs -- except that when DIDs > finally exist they may help solve the problem. > > So, it seems to me that Kaliya and Heather have three options: > > 1. Suggest to the main DID code-writers -- some of whom, > interestingly, have said they also would like a bounty for their work > -- that a possible bootstrapping could occur if a DID method was made > especially for the purpose of collecting money for the development of > DIDs. In other words, all the people who would like to 'crowdfund' > such an effort -- the code-writing and the evangelizing materials -- > would then be able to do so through a functional DID system. People > would create DID Docs and contribute money through the system, and the > system would allow them to allocate it and track where the money goes. > > I don't know if such a system is possible yet; or if it is, it's > probably hard to make. But the stakes are high: the people who could > make it work might be able to both be well-compensated, and > demonstrate what DIDs can do, rather dramatically. > > or: > > 2. Organize other people into the formation of one of the existing > types of governance of our world, specifically to promote DIDs with: > crowdfunding, or a non-profit society, or a corporation. Then the > directors of such an organization, or the members of it, could vote on > whether to purchase your existing report, and release it. > > or: > > 3. Do volunteer work only; as much as you're comfortable with. And > wait. Probably eventually DIDs will exist. > > > Steven Rowat > > -- Adrian Gropper MD PROTECT YOUR FUTURE - RESTORE Health Privacy! HELP us fight for the right to control personal health data. DONATE: https://patientprivacyrights.org/donate-3/
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