Re: [AGENDA] W3C Credentials CG Call Tue, August 7th, 12 noon ET, 9 AM PT

Dear Christopher, Linus and All,

Thanks for setting up this interesting discussion.  I would like to put it
in a slightly broader context, not to sidetrack it, but as background for a
possible future discussion.

I think there is a need for at least three types of Distributed Identities:

1. Anonymous
2. Pseudonymous (unique)
3. Public (unique and honest)

Who needs a Public DID?  For start, the 2Bn+ users of Facebook, Twitter,
Instagram, LinkedIn...who are now locked into using a proprietary and
centralized form of a Public Identity.
For a general discussion of the need for Public Identities, see Tim
Berners-Lee recent piece
<https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/PublicIdentity.html>.
For a discussion of their need in the context of e-democracy, see my recent
piece <https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2018/8/229759-point/pdf>.

I am looking forward to the discussion today on Pseudonymous DIDs, and hope
to have in the future a discussion of Public DIDs.

Best regards,
Udi



On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Gasser Linus <linus.gasser@epfl.ch> wrote:

> Hi Christopher,
>
> I finally updated and slimmed down my presentation for PoP-parties. I
> attached the PDF to this mail:
>
>
>
> The slides 21 and after are just there in case of questions. I plan to
> talk for 10-15 minutes, and then we have time for discussion. Is this OK
> like that?
>
> Linus
>
>
> On 5 Aug 2018, at 01:10, Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity
> .com> wrote:
>
> *TL;DR: Report from DWeb Summit; Proof of Personhood Discussion*
>
> NEXT MEETING:
>
> Tuesday, August 7th, 2018
> Time: 12pm Boston, 9am Pacific, 16:00 GMT
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> We prefer people to dial in via SIP when possible.
>
> Duration: 60 minutes
>
> Minutes from last call: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2018-07-24/
>
> PROPOSED AGENDA:
>
>    1. IP Note: Anyone can participate in these calls. However, if you
>    have not agreed to the groups IP policy, we cannot consider substantive
>    contributions. (1 minute)
>    2. Queuing in IRC (2 minute)
>    1. We use IRC to queue speakers during the call as well as to take
>       minutes
>       2. q+ to add yourself to queue (with optional reminder, e.g., “q+
>       DID spec needs better SEO”
>       3. If you’re not on IRC, simply ask to be put on the queue.
>       4. Please be brief so the rest of the queue get a chance to chime
>       in. You can always q+ again.
>       3. Connections Check & Scribe Selection (3 minutes)
>    1. Scribe List: https://docs.google.com/docume
>       nt/d/1LkqZ10z7FeV3EgMIQEJ9achEYMzy1d_2S90Q_lQ0y8M/edit?usp=sharing
>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LkqZ10z7FeV3EgMIQEJ9achEYMzy1d_2S90Q_lQ0y8M/edit?usp=sharing>
>       )
>       4. Agenda Review (2 minutes)
>    5. Introductions & Reintroductions (4 minutes) (see scribe doc for
>    reintroduce column)
>    6. Announcements & Reminders (5 minutes)
>    https://w3c-ccg.github.io/announcements/
>    1. MYDATA 2018 — August 29-31 Helsinki, Finland
>       2. #RebootingWebOfTrust VII — September 26-28th, Toronto (NOTE
>       change from 24th)
>       3. TPAC — October 23rd-26th, Lyon, France
>       https://www.w3.org/2018/10/TPAC/ <https://www.w3.org/2018/10/TPAC/>
>       4. IIW — October 23rd-25th, Mountain View
>       http://iiw.idcommons.net
>       7. Progress on Current Action Items (5 min)
>    https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%
>    3Aopen+label%3A%22action+item%22
>    <https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22action+item%22>
>    8. Status of Work Items (5 min)
>    https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/blob/master/work_items.md
>    9. DWeb Summit Report Out (5 min)
>    A number our members demonstrated apps at the DWeb Summit last week
>    https://decentralizedweb.net/ — any lessons or action items?
>    10. Proof of Personhood (25 min)
>
> Discussion with Brian Ford and team about “Proof of Personhood”
>
>    - https://www.zerobyte.io/publications/2017-BKJGGF-pop.pdf
>    - http://ww.bford.info/log/2007/0327-PseudonymParties.pdf
>
> Potential related materials:
>
>    - https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/accountable-pseudonyms-soc
>    ialnets08.pdf
>    - https://artis.eco/en/faq
>
>
> Next week: Review of https://jolocom.com/ approach to decentralized
> digital identity, including their DID and VC implementation
>
> — W3C-CCG Co-Chairs: Christopher Allen, Kim Hamilton Duffy & Joe Andrieu
>
>
>
>