- From: <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 12:39:41 -0500
- To: Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
Thanks to Adam Lake for scribing this week! The minutes
for this week's Verifiable Claims telecon are now available:
http://w3c.github.io/vctf/meetings/2017-03-07/
Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes.
Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below).
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Verifiable Claims Telecon Minutes for 2017-03-07
Agenda:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2017Mar/0000.html
Topics:
1. Status of VCWG Creation
2. Meeting for 2017-03-28 Cancelled
3. IMS Badge Summit Update
4. RWoT Demo Status
5. Prioritizing Pull Requests
6. Actions Item Review
7. Suggestions for Next Meeting Agenda
Action Items:
1. JoeAndrieu to review NIST privacy template in the context of
Adrian Gropper's prescription use case.
2. Manu to invite uPort to group to talk/demo their work.
Organizer:
Manu Sporny
Scribe:
Adam Lake
Present:
Adam Lake, Manu Sporny, Matt Stone, Richard Varn, Nate Otto,
Christopher Allen, Joe Andrieu, Adam Migus, Jonathan Holt, Abbas
Ali, Nathan George, David I. Lehn, Dave Longley, Gregg Kellogg,
Sean Bohan, Colleen Kennedy, Matthew Larson
Audio:
http://w3c.github.io/vctf/meetings/2017-03-07/audio.ogg
Adam Lake is scribing.
Topic: Status of VCWG Creation
Manu Sporny: There should be a revised charter out. W3C
management has put out a new charter for review. Including a
response to all the formal rejections. It went out to the mailing
list.
Manu Sporny: Revised Charter is here - request for comments is
open:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-charters-review/2017Mar/0000.html
Manu Sporny: W3c non-members will not be able to see this.
Members please be sure to read it and reply whether or not you
agree. Dave is taking on responding to criticisms and doing a
great job.
Matt Stone: Is Dave Raggett going to be the new contact?
Manu Sporny: You should ask reps to see why you are not being
pinged on this. Matt and Richard, very important that you read
through the w3c update and that the group respond in the next
week.
Topic: Meeting for 2017-03-28 Cancelled
Richard Varn: We are not having a meeting on the 28th of March,
chairs are not available.
Topic: IMS Badge Summit Update
Richard Varn: Who has attended the IMS(sp) badge summit? Anyone
have anything to share about the summit?
Richard Varn: Nobody on the call seems to have attended the
summit.
Richard Varn: Did anyone attend the Parchment Summit? I
attended. it was well attended. It focused on education. It
supported the work we are doing here. We are trying to coordinate
with other standards bodies.
Manu Sporny: Did you Talk with Stewart while you were there?
Richard Varn: No, but I made another contact and will look that
contact up and share it with the group.
Manu Sporny: We should be doing bimonthly check-ins with IMS to
make sure we're synced up
Topic: RWoT Demo Status
Nate Otto: I'm IRC-only today. I'll do my assigned tickets (pull
requests instead of just comments this time) ASAP.
Manu Sporny: Joe and I have not been able to talk about it yet.
Out org, Digital Bazaar, is going into productions with our
claims technology. We are want to create a UN card to address a
refugee use case. We need to get the UN's blessing before moving
forward. We are going to be demoing the technology with videos
and sending those to the group.
Manu Sporny: In short we are going to be testing in
demonstrating the the claims technology.
Christopher Allen: I have been working on the bitcoin DID
implementation . It is currently primitive but looks good. I want
to track other examples of wallets. We need to be sure as a group
to talk about signature algorithms and other supporting
structures for verifiable claims. I am happy to talk with anyone
about these pieces before RWoT
JoeA, ChristopherA, and manu are going to meet about these
topics.
Topic: Prioritizing Pull Requests
Manu Sporny: Current status of Pull requests:
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/pulls
Richard Varn: Of the 5 identified pull requests, which of these
are priorities?
Manu Sporny: https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/pull/39
Matt Stone: Last week we talked about the life cycle of a pull
request. There are some older PR's that are older and still
getting a lot of activity. Some are not getting activity.
Manu Sporny: https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/pull/36
Manu Sporny: There are two PR's that I've processed as an
editor. We waited a week, got a reviewer to submit a comment. We
pulled the PR in anyway. If you still object, please raise an
issue referencing specific text.
Manu Sporny: We don't want to delay the time it takes to get the
spec text in the doc because we want to move the process along.
Manu Sporny: Joe, take a look here:
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/pull/37
Manu Sporny: The PR's with active discussion. Joe, I said your
PR(#37) was great last week but now noticed that there are a lot
of comments that have not been responded to. I think it's best
practice to respond to all comments and specify if a change has
been made.
Joe Andrieu: That makes sense.
Manu Sporny: To be fair we did not say anything about responding
to comments last week.
Adam Migus: I will consider myself pestered
Manu Sporny: We need reviewers on:
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/pull/38
Adam Migus: And promise to take a look today and tomorrow.
Manu Sporny: The other PR is PR 38. We are waiting on Adam and
Joe, or anyone else to take a look at that PR and make comments.
We need reviewers on PR 38
Richard Varn: On different topic, my rep says that a new charter
has not been sent out. Says he searched through the AC forum and
founding nothing.
Manu Sporny: Here's the link to the W3C AC mailing list on
Verifiable Claims charter:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2017JanMar/0107.html
Topic: Actions Item Review
Christopher Allen: Is there anyone else interested in moving the
WoT use case forward?
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/issues/32
Richard Varn: We have 5 items. Does anyone have anything to
report?
Matt Stone: https://goo.gl/V4XTBT
Adam Migus: I just sent something out to the list just before
this meeting.
Adam Migus: Sent 30 minutes to the public credentials list
Manu Sporny: Yes, that is the list to use.
Richard Varn: That actions item is closed, any other reports on
action items?
Manu Sporny: Here are the privacy issues:
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aprivacy
Matt Stone: On previous topic: amigus email re: privacy:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2017Mar/0002.html
Manu Sporny: I have assigned all the privacy sections. Anything
tagged with privacy has an assignee. Nobody has more than two
items. Let us know if you want to work on privacy issues.
Richard Varn: That action item is closed.
Matt Stone: What do we do with the privacy risk templates now
that we have them?
Joe Andrieu: We want to apply them to Adrian Gropper's
prescription use case
ACTION: JoeAndrieu to review NIST privacy template in the context
of Adrian Gropper's prescription use case.
Adam Migus: I mentioned in the email that the sheets are a
workflow. They are a technology solution rather than a use case
solution. Eventually when we get something nearly complete we can
get in touch with NIST.
Manu Sporny: +1 To that!
Christopher Allen: BTW, Adrian & andrieu: The final coala/consent
paper from the last RWoT is out, and it has a medical use case in
it:
https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-fall2016/blob/master/final-documents/smart-consent-protocol.pdf
Manu Sporny: The purpose of the NIST worksheet is a pretty heavy
tool. The privacy sections are more lightweight. We don't need to
apply the NIST worksheet to our work.
Adam Migus: There are materials in the NIST worksheets that are
useful. Agree with Manu that they are heavy. There is a catalogue
of of harms and other sections that are very useful on the NIST
sheets. It's a good idea to read them.
Topic: Suggestions for Next Meeting Agenda
Christopher Allen: I would like to see some more discussion of
the WoT use case with solid examples.
Manu Sporny: We are going to start running out of things to talk
about if people don't contribute more to the spec.
Manu Sporny: DO NOT CORRELATE flag for the data model:
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/issues/41
Christopher Allen: WoT use case:
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-data-model/issues/32
Jonathan Holt: Probably just as useful as robots.txt file, but at
least it exists
Manu Sporny: Do not correlate flag as part of the data model.
Europe is potentially passing legislation in this area.
Christopher Allen: http://www.eugdpr.org/ is the GDPR official
website
Christopher Allen: GDPR is definately a topic of #RWoT in Paris
Joe Andrieu: I was getting the agenda as a cc. I joined the list
and have not been getting the agenda for the last two weeks
Abbas Ali: I got the agenda on Friday
Richard Varn: It is sent to the wc3 credentials group.
Christopher Allen: BTW, the registration page for #RWoT Paris on
April 19th is
https://www.eventbrite.fr/e/billets-rebooting-web-of-trust-paris-32228513351
Matt Stone: Adam's note went to: public-credentials@w3.org and
agenda went to: public-credentials@w3.org
Adam Migus: I sent the PRAM sheets to public-credentials which is
where I recieve the agrendas from...
Manu Sporny: All email should now be going to:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/
Manu Sporny: For whatever reason the agenda did not make it to
that list, but it should have. It's probably stuck in w3c.
Adam Migus: I did get a roadblock asking me to accept that my
email would be archived. Once i said 'yes' to that, the message
went through
Nathan George: I believe it did come through with the subject of
"Verifiable Claims Telecon Minutes for 2017-03-07"
Manu Sporny: Everyone needs to be registered with W3C with the
appropriate email address or you won't get the emails.
Adam Migus: I have a new email roadblock--need to agree to have
email archived. If you have not agreed to this you may not be
getting emails.
Richard Varn: Agenda items for next week 1) do not correlate
flag 2) RWoT demo
Christopher Allen: Everyone is welcome to come to the Rebooting
Web of Trust conference in Paris starting April 18th.
Christopher Allen: We are talking about the implementation side
as well, wallet intersection of DID's and Claims. Lets go over
some of the examples in the next meeting.
Manu Sporny: To address something ChristopherA. We have near
production ready work for DID's. It uses a protocol to move the
verifiable claims around using DID'd. We are very close to a
production ready system.
Manu Sporny: I am happy to take people through a demo during the
next meeting. We don't want it to be a product demo, we want it
to be a capabilities demo.
Christopher Allen: It's worthwhile to have screenshots but am
concerned it will derail things if we get too deeply into the
details. I prefer a use case would address thinks like what is
missing from schema.org. It would be great to see those
screenshots. We should reach out to others to see the demos.
Manu Sporny: +1 To inviting the uPort team to talk/demo.
Christopher Allen: Joe has ben working at the RWoT on a specific
model around refugees. That is fairly well developed. Separately
from that is general PGP stuff and replicating that. I am going
basic to reproduce what PGP did.
Christopher Allen: Here is the use case side of WoT
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-use-cases/issues/31
ACTION: Manu to invite uPort to group to talk/demo their work.
Christopher Allen: Here is the data side:
https://github.com/opencreds/vc-use-cases/issues/31
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