Re: Credential Expiry

Hi David,

I was speaking only of my personal opinion that there were still
disagreements about what should be changed based on the emails I saw, but I
could easily be mistaken.  As a spec editor I prefer to err on the side of
underreach in document changes rather than overreach, particularly since
this group has a fairly long history of discussion that resulted in where
we are now.

Manu, since you have substantially more history in the group could you
speak to this topic and whether I might have missed a clear consensus
agreement to make a change to the spec document?  Alternatively, perhaps
you could speak to the consensus process you have been following in the
Community Group and/or what you believe is a good process here.  Unless I
just missed the consensus, personally I think disagreements just need more
discussion time (email, or on a call if necessary) to be worked out.

-- dan

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:07 PM, David Chadwick <d.w.chadwick@kent.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Unfortunately there was no time to discuss credential expiry time on the
> call today.
>
> Dan, can you please advise how and when it is determined that a
> consensus has been reached on this topic
>
> regards
>
> David
>
> On 24/05/2016 15:41, Daniel Burnett wrote:
> > Good point.  I am not trying to argue for or against any particular
> > change.  I sent the email only because the discussion started in the
> > context of the data model, even though it didn't necessarily stay there.
> >
> > If we end up deciding on a change to the data model then, obviously, I
> > would need to reflect that in the data model spec document we're
> developing.
> >
> > -- dan
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Stone, Matt <matt.stone@pearson.com
> > <mailto:matt.stone@pearson.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     ​I won't be there today, but be very clear to distinguish between
> >     the expiration of the credential (in the data model, like an issue
> >     date) and the "time since last verified" that the protocol would
> >     care about.
> >
> >     -stone​
> >
> >
> >     =====
> >     Matt Stone
> >     501-291-1599 <tel:501-291-1599>
> >
> >
> >     On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Daniel Burnett
> >     <danielcburnett@gmail.com <mailto:danielcburnett@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Manu,
> >
> >         There has been a mailing list thread [1] about whether a
> >         credential expiration date property should be required in the
> >         data model.  It appears to me that, so far, there isn't
> >         consensus either way.  You might want to add it as an agenda
> >         item we can discuss if time permits at the end of the meeting.
> >
> >         -- dan
> >
> >         [1]
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2016May/0023.html
> >
> >         On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Manu Sporny
> >         <msporny@digitalbazaar.com <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>
> >         wrote:
> >
> >             Hi all,
> >
> >             We have a Verifiable Claims Task Force call tomorrow to get
> >             an intro to
> >             the US Department of Homeland Security's Blockchain research
> >             project
> >             around identity from Anil John (who initiated the project).
> >             We'll also
> >             provide a rundown of what happened at the United Nations
> >             ID2020 summit,
> >             the Rebooting Web of Trust Design Workshop, and how those
> events
> >             dovetail with the work we're doing here. Finally, we'll get
> >             an update on
> >             progress on deliverables for the upcoming W3C Blockchain
> >             workshop and
> >             Web Payments IG meeting on July 1st 2016.
> >
> >             The meeting is open to the general public. There are no
> >             Intellectual
> >             Property Release requirements. The call will be recorded and
> >             minuted to
> >             ensure we're capturing everyone's concerns properly.
> >
> >             If you want to add anything to or modify the proposed agenda
> >             below,
> >             please respond via the mailing list or make a note of it at
> the
> >             beginning of the call. If your organization would not like
> >             the call to
> >             be recorded, let me know and we'll disable the audio
> recording.
> >
> >             ==========
> >             Tuesday, May 24th 2016
> >             Time: 11am Boston
> >             Text Chat: http://tinyurl.com/w3c-vctf
> >                        irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#vctf
> >             <http://irc.w3.org:6665/#vctf>
> >             Voice: sip:vctf@96.89.14.196 <mailto:sip%3Avctf@96.89.14.196
> >
> >                    tel:+1-540-961-4469;ext=6306
> >             <tel:%2B1-540-961-4469%3Bext%3D6306> (extension 6306)
> >             Duration: 60 minutes
> >             Scribes: MattC, MattS, Longley, DanB, Gregg, Nate, Brian,
> >             ==========
> >
> >             Proposed Agenda
> >             ---------------
> >
> >             1. Introduction to Anil John and DHS Blockchain R&D
> >                * https://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/867797
> >             2. United Nations ID2020 Summit Recap
> >             3. Rebooting Web of Trust Design Workshop Recap
> >             4. Update on Work Items
> >                 * Charter
> >                 * Use Cases
> >                 * FAQ
> >                 * Verifiable Claims Data Model Specification
> >                 * Survey Results/Overview
> >                 * One page W3C AC Rep Summary (1 page)
> >                 * Architecture Summary (1-2 pages)
> >                 * Implementers Summary (1 page, incorporated into survey)
> >
> >             -- manu
> >
> >             --
> >             Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu
> >             Sporny)
> >             Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> >             blog: The Web Browser API Incubation Anti-Pattern
> >
> http://manu.sporny.org/2016/browser-api-incubation-antipattern/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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