- From: Stone, Matt <matt.stone@pearson.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 22:53:25 -0600
- To: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+w1=RTkz7Mo2Zf6wWkCQc109xEjsgRc_oAj2_ROnQoNBygRdA@mail.gmail.com>
Hooray +1 moving forward! Need an expansive interpretation of "education"... -stone On Monday, July 4, 2016, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote: > Also, > > We need a clear definition of 'education'. > IE: > > To Educate W3C related stakeholders about a set of specified methodologies > that may be used to define a verifiable claims ecosystem for a plurality of > applications. > > arguably stakeholders are any human who depends upon or is influenced by > web use and the application of related technologies via various business > systems models. > > Perhaps they had a different view of the term 'education'? therein > referring back to the prior request outlined here [1] > > Tim.H. > [1] > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2016Jul/0005.html > > On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 at 11:06 Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','timothy.holborn@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Is it possible that those providing objection provide a 1 - 2 pager, >> each, outlining their concerns and understandings more broadly driving >> their decision making processes and subsequent directions to us. >> >> It is important we understand the point of view of these stakeholders in >> a comprehensive fashion as to ensure we act in a manner supported by what >> might be considered a reasonable request for due-diligence. >> >> This in-turn would empower us to improve what we do for smooth >> development into the future, including but not exclusive to, any further >> processing required by said stakeholders and us fully understanding their >> expectations, beliefs and underlying considerations. >> >> I hope this is not too onerous on any party. >> >> Again, congratulations and great work... >> >> Tim Holborn. >> >> >> On Tue, 5 Jul 2016, 3:32 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','msporny@digitalbazaar.com');>> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The Web Payments Interest Group met last week at MIT in Boston to >>> determine if they wanted to proceed with the Verifiable Claims work. >>> While the minutes of those meetings won't be made public for the next >>> week or two, W3C Staff noted that we can share the general outcome of >>> the decision. >>> >>> The decision was almost unanimous to progress the Verifiable Claims >>> proposal to W3C Management. Hooray! Congratulations to everyone involved >>> as this is a major step forward. >>> >>> There were, however, three dissenting positions that we should take very >>> seriously and discuss in depth over the next few weeks. The telecon for >>> this week is canceled because many of us are at the Web Payments Working >>> Group face-to-face meeting in London this week. So, the rest of this >>> email will attempt to outline general next steps and specific work items >>> for the group. >>> >>> The anticipated next steps at W3C are: >>> >>> 1. A modified charter is negotiated with W3C Management and the >>> dissenting organizations. >>> 2. Once we have consensus among all organizations involved, the >>> expectation is that the modified charter and proposal will be put >>> forward to W3C membership for a vote. The timeline for this is >>> unknown at this point. >>> 3. We will most likely attempt to have a Verifiable Claims >>> face-to-face meeting at W3C TPAC 2016, but have not sorted out >>> those details yet: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/ >>> >>> We know of the following modification requests to the charter: >>> >>> 1. Constrain the charter to Education only. >>> 2. Demonstrate that the charter is not competitive to JSON Object >>> Signing and Encryption Web Tokens (JOSE JWT). >>> 3. Remove or greatly narrow the overarching problem statement >>> about self-sovereign ecosystem and goals from the charter. >>> >>> The anticipated next steps for the Verifiable Claims Task Force and >>> Credentials Community Group are: >>> >>> 1. Determine if we want to constrain the charter to Education only. >>> 2. Update the Data Model and Representations specification to clearly >>> demonstrate that this technology is not competitive to JOSE/JWT. >>> 3. Determine if we want to modify the problem statement and >>> charter goals. >>> 4. Plan our first face-to-face meeting, possibly at W3C TPAC in >>> Lisbon at the end of September. >>> >>> W3C Staff are currently drafting changes that they think would result in >>> consensus. Once we have those suggestions in hand, and once we've talked >>> with the dissenting organizations, we'll be able to have a better idea >>> about timeline. >>> >>> The next Verifiable Claims telecon will be Tuesday, July 12th at 11am >>> ET. Dial in details can be found here: >>> >>> https://w3c.github.io/vctf/#telecons >>> >>> -- manu >>> >>> -- >>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) >>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >>> blog: The Web Browser API Incubation Anti-Pattern >>> http://manu.sporny.org/2016/browser-api-incubation-antipattern/ >>> >>> -- ===== Matt Stone 501-291-1599
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