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Re: Web Payments IG approves Verifiable Claims to proceed to W3C Management

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 01:06:37 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok0ZfkmuyqTosdYviJXo0dhOE66SqhuLaeBY7JUE_vvzXg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
Is it possible that those providing objection provide a 1 - 2 pager, each,
outlining their concerns and understandings more broadly driving their
decision making processes and subsequent directions to us.

It is important we understand the point of view of these stakeholders in a
comprehensive fashion as to ensure we act in a manner supported by what
might be considered a reasonable request for due-diligence.

This in-turn would empower us to improve what we do for smooth development
into the future, including but not exclusive to, any further processing
required by said stakeholders and us fully understanding their
expectations, beliefs and underlying considerations.

I hope this is not too onerous on any party.

Again, congratulations and great work...

Tim Holborn.

On Tue, 5 Jul 2016, 3:32 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> The Web Payments Interest Group met last week at MIT in Boston to
> determine if they wanted to proceed with the Verifiable Claims work.
> While the minutes of those meetings won't be made public for the next
> week or two, W3C Staff noted that we can share the general outcome of
> the decision.
> The decision was almost unanimous to progress the Verifiable Claims
> proposal to W3C Management. Hooray! Congratulations to everyone involved
> as this is a major step forward.
> There were, however, three dissenting positions that we should take very
> seriously and discuss in depth over the next few weeks. The telecon for
> this week is canceled because many of us are at the Web Payments Working
> Group face-to-face meeting in London this week. So, the rest of this
> email will attempt to outline general next steps and specific work items
> for the group.
> The anticipated next steps at W3C are:
> 1. A modified charter is negotiated with W3C Management and the
>    dissenting organizations.
> 2. Once we have consensus among all organizations involved, the
>    expectation is that the modified charter and proposal will be put
>    forward to W3C membership for a vote. The timeline for this is
>    unknown at this point.
> 3. We will most likely attempt to have a Verifiable Claims
>    face-to-face meeting at W3C TPAC 2016, but have not sorted out
>    those details yet: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/
> We know of the following modification requests to the charter:
> 1. Constrain the charter to Education only.
> 2. Demonstrate that the charter is not competitive to JSON Object
>    Signing and Encryption Web Tokens (JOSE JWT).
> 3. Remove or greatly narrow the overarching problem statement
>    about self-sovereign ecosystem and goals from the charter.
> The anticipated next steps for the Verifiable Claims Task Force and
> Credentials Community Group are:
> 1. Determine if we want to constrain the charter to Education only.
> 2. Update the Data Model and Representations specification to clearly
>    demonstrate that this technology is not competitive to JOSE/JWT.
> 3. Determine if we want to modify the problem statement and
>    charter goals.
> 4. Plan our first face-to-face meeting, possibly at W3C TPAC in
>    Lisbon at the end of September.
> W3C Staff are currently drafting changes that they think would result in
> consensus. Once we have those suggestions in hand, and once we've talked
> with the dissenting organizations, we'll be able to have a better idea
> about timeline.
> The next Verifiable Claims telecon will be Tuesday, July 12th at 11am
> ET. Dial in details can be found here:
> https://w3c.github.io/vctf/#telecons
> -- manu
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: The Web Browser API Incubation Anti-Pattern
> http://manu.sporny.org/2016/browser-api-incubation-antipattern/
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