Re: Egypt joins Nigeria in using association branded national ID card

I can't figure out what the link is between the national ID and payments.
I do know that some Nordic countries have put an eID-application in the same chip as the EMV-application.
I think this is a horrible idea because then every merchant can read your ID as well.

Anders
On 2015-03-07 12:15, Adrian Hope-Bailie wrote:

> Hi Erik,
>
> I think you meant to direct your comment to David?
>
> I would agree with you and add the following from my personal position:
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> I live in a country where government tenders are almost always shrouded in some level of controversy.
> When an international commercial organisation is awarded (direct or indirect) control of a government institution it makes me very nervous.
> After the deal is done and the government ID running payment applications that are subject to some commercial entity's rules it's very hard to go back.
>
> I would agree with David that having a government ID that is also a payment instrument is an excellent synergy but would prefer that this was through some government/central bank controlled (or better independant and decentralized) proxy to the commercial payments providers.
>
> Adrian
>
>
> On 7 March 2015 at 00:15, Erik Ros <mail@erikros.me <mailto:mail@erikros.me>> wrote:
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>     Dear Adrian,
>
>     you ask why not, the answer to that would have to be:
>
>     because it is a cluttering of power. We want power to be divided as equally as possible over as many people as possible (IMO).
>
>     I would like take my remark to a broader point. I think the specifications that are being created should valour de-centrality (the primary success factor of the internet). We shouldn't need the government, or a credit card company to make and economic exchange.
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>     We could do without this dependency. Perhaps we should have open source exchange providers?..
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Erik
>
>
>     On 06-03-15 21:10, David Nicol wrote:
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>>     On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Adrian Hope-Bailie <adrian@hopebailie.com <mailto:adrian@hopebailie.com>> wrote:
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>>         I don't think this is a very encouraging trend:
>>         http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=27066
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>>
>>     Why not? Aside from surveillance and monopoly concerns that are actually there even without making a government-issued ID card a payment instrument, it's excellent synergy. At least
>>     its a bearer instrument and not a bar code tattoo!
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>>
>>
>>     --
>>     There is a lot more low hanging fruit when you're tall.
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