- From: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 20:00:28 +0100
- To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
- CC: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, public-credentials@w3.org
On 2014-12-02 19:32, Richard Barnes wrote:
> http://memedad.com/meme/343043
Of course I don't object to that :-)
What I do object to is the idea that it would be impossible/bad/whatever
stretching Tim Bray's JSON-I spec. so that it mandated that compliant
JSON-I parsers would not be allowed to "reorganize" input data.
Anders
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> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 2014-12-02 19:09, Richard Barnes wrote:
>
> Human-readability is only a very minor part of the objectives here. Base64 deserialization is not a major issue.
>
>
> This departs from the thoughts behind JSON's predecessor, XML.
>
> Anyway, I'm sure many other organizations will use JSON clear-text signatures
> (home-brewed though since there is no such standard), particularly since it has
> been found out to be compliant with at least the browser parsers. That this
> is the case has a trivial explanation:
>
> Only a bad programmer would design a parser so it would output data
> in a different order than it was supplied in, even if the "standard"
> allowed that.
>
>
> http://memedad.com/meme/343043
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>
> Anders
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>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@__gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>>> wrote:
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> On 2014-12-02 18:20, Richard Barnes wrote:
>
> When I wrote that, there was no flattened serialization. I'm currently revising to use JWS.
>
>
> So ACME will go from:
>
> {
> "type": "certificateRequest",
> "csr": "5jNudRx6Ye4HzKEqT5...____FS6aKdZeGsysoCo4H9P",
> "signature": {
> "alg": "RS256",
> "nonce": "h5aYpWVkq-xlJh6cpR-3cw",
> "sig": "KxITJ0rNlfDMAtfDr8eAw...____fSSoehDFNZKQKzTZPtQ",
> "jwk": {
> "kty":"RSA",
> "e":"AQAB",
> "n":"KxITJ0rNlfDMAtfDr8eAw...____fSSoehDFNZKQKzTZPtQ"
> }
> }
> }
>
> to:
>
> {
> "payload":"<payload contents>",
> "protected":"<integrity-____protected header contents>",
> "header":<non-integrity-____protected header contents>,
> "signature":"<signature contents>"
> }
>
> That's not so cool (you don't see what it is anymore...), not to mention how poorly
> it matches the JSON schema validation ACME seems to use.
>
> JSON Cleartext Signatures rocks :-)
>
> Anders
>
>
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> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar. <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.>____com <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>>> wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> Quick question for you re: ACME - why did you decide to not use the JWS
> base64-encoding mechanism in the signature for ACME? Particularly,
> you've specified multiple canonicalization mechanisms (signature-input).
>
> The reason I'm asking is because we're trying to get some insight into
> whether or not the base64-encoded approach should be used when digitally
> signing credentials in the Credentials Community Group, or if you
> suggest we specify our own canonicalization mechanism and re-use the JWS
> alg/nonce/sig fields?
>
> On 11/28/2014 09:04 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
> > https://github.com/____letsencrypt/acme-spec/blob/____master/draft-barnes-acme.md <https://github.com/__letsencrypt/acme-spec/blob/__master/draft-barnes-acme.md> <https://github.com/__letsencrypt/acme-spec/blob/__master/draft-barnes-acme.md <https://github.com/letsencrypt/acme-spec/blob/master/draft-barnes-acme.md>>
> >
> > {
> > "type": "certificateRequest",
> > "csr": "5jNudRx6Ye4HzKEqT5...____FS6aKdZeGsysoCo4H9P",
> > "signature": {
> > "alg": "RS256",
> > "nonce": "h5aYpWVkq-xlJh6cpR-3cw",
> > "sig": "KxITJ0rNlfDMAtfDr8eAw...____fSSoehDFNZKQKzTZPtQ",
> > "jwk": {
> > "kty":"RSA",
> > "e":"AQAB",
> > "n":"KxITJ0rNlfDMAtfDr8eAw...____fSSoehDFNZKQKzTZPtQ"
> > }
> > }
> > }
>
> -- manu
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