Re: I considered presenting

at one point I got into automata and started wondering about scheme, lisp,
prolog and all that......


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Brent Shambaugh
<brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>wrote:

> Mark, thanks for the link. I'll keep it in mind. Early on I thought about
> visualization in layers to keep to make things a bit easier spatially (if I
> can recall correctly), I also thought about various hypergraphs and topic
> maps at one point. In addition, I'll admit that I am very interested in
> neuroscience.
>
> <1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergraph
> <2> http://topicmaps.org/
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm feeling strongly about this. I also know some people who might be
>> able to help with this.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a hunch a lot lies in things like Payswarm and Ripple. I mean it
>>> certainly is emotional for me. Payswarm can keep track of intentions, and
>>> Ripple allows of decentralized payment and may keep track of intentions.
>>> Something (experience and otherwise) is telling me to focus more on web
>>> payments.
>>>
>>> I've had a lot of problems with trying to look at everything to see
>>> patterns, try to avoid reinventing the wheel. Eventually, I concluded that
>>> to implement stuff I just needed to study more languages (but more, so it
>>> is looking like JavaScript) and if I was bothered by the theory or wanted
>>> help understanding how it would work best than CS stuff. It was all very
>>> confusing.
>>>
>>> Can I safely ditch https://www.coursera.org/course/hci (Human-Computer
>>> Interaction), https://www.coursera.org/course/pgm (Probabilistic
>>> Graphical Models), https://www.coursera.org/course/bigdata (Web
>>> Intelligence and Big Data), https://www.coursera.org/course/gamification(Gamification) and put it on the shelf for now? Clearly building a
>>> distributed economy is a massive undertaking, and these things could
>>> certainly come into play. Money, or at least some record of exchange,
>>> appears to be a very important part. Knowing this to build something may
>>> not be necessary.
>>>
>>> I'd like to commit more time to this, and obviously I have to focus in
>>> order to do that.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Creating a usable barter system also requires actions be accompolished
>>>> *early* in time.
>>>>
>>>> Here is my vision of such a system:
>>>>
>>>> First of all, this requires something I call either a "Production
>>>> Arena", or (less often) a "Vertically Integrated Permaculture Mosaic".
>>>>
>>>> The Production Arena (or VIPM) is the interlocking Physical Sources
>>>> such as land and water rights and plants and animals and tools and other
>>>> things needed to create a "Basic Outcome" for all the participants.
>>>>
>>>> And so we attract middle-to-upper-income investors to supply the money
>>>> to buy these Physical Sources for an advertised return of organic goods and
>>>> services in the future - though they will actually be receiving
>>>> co-ownership in the Production Arena, and receiving the goods and services
>>>> as a 'side-effect' of that co-ownership.  In this way we eliminate the
>>>> buying and selling of those goods and services.
>>>>
>>>> And we must also attract middle-to-lower-income investors to
>>>> cross-commit their *future* labor in return for co-ownership in the
>>>> Production Arena.
>>>>
>>>> By "cross-commit" I mean each worker will promise to work in a specific
>>>> part of the Production Arena (say milking cows) in return for receiving
>>>> co-ownership in many other parts of the Production Arena needed to supply
>>>> him with all of his basic needs.
>>>>
>>>> I need to refine how I explain this, because there is a bit more to it
>>>> that I did not include in the above...
>>>>
>>>> Each investors (whether committing money or future labor) will usually
>>>> receive a 'bundle' of property-rights *and* commitments from others to
>>>> perform the future labor necessary to accomplish that production.
>>>>
>>>> For example, the cow-milker would usually receive both ownership in the
>>>> dentist office *and* commitments from the dentist to fix his teeth in the
>>>> future when necessary.
>>>>
>>>> When used in conjunction these commitments create the kind of security
>>>> that insurance pretends to deliver.  I sometimes call it "life assurance".
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brent Shambaugh
>>>
>>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>>> how to build better economies.
>>>  Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brent Shambaugh
>>
>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>> how to build better economies.
>> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Brent Shambaugh
>
> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
> how to build better economies.
> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>



-- 
Brent Shambaugh

I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching how
to build better economies.
Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com