Re: I considered presenting

Hmm...

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pangaia/index.php?title=New_economic_system


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Brent Shambaugh
<brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>wrote:

> at one point I got into automata and started wondering about scheme, lisp,
> prolog and all that......
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Mark, thanks for the link. I'll keep it in mind. Early on I thought about
>> visualization in layers to keep to make things a bit easier spatially (if I
>> can recall correctly), I also thought about various hypergraphs and topic
>> maps at one point. In addition, I'll admit that I am very interested in
>> neuroscience.
>>
>> <1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergraph
>> <2> http://topicmaps.org/
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm feeling strongly about this. I also know some people who might be
>>> able to help with this.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a hunch a lot lies in things like Payswarm and Ripple. I mean it
>>>> certainly is emotional for me. Payswarm can keep track of intentions, and
>>>> Ripple allows of decentralized payment and may keep track of intentions.
>>>> Something (experience and otherwise) is telling me to focus more on web
>>>> payments.
>>>>
>>>> I've had a lot of problems with trying to look at everything to see
>>>> patterns, try to avoid reinventing the wheel. Eventually, I concluded that
>>>> to implement stuff I just needed to study more languages (but more, so it
>>>> is looking like JavaScript) and if I was bothered by the theory or wanted
>>>> help understanding how it would work best than CS stuff. It was all very
>>>> confusing.
>>>>
>>>> Can I safely ditch https://www.coursera.org/course/hci (Human-Computer
>>>> Interaction), https://www.coursera.org/course/pgm (Probabilistic
>>>> Graphical Models), https://www.coursera.org/course/bigdata (Web
>>>> Intelligence and Big Data),
>>>> https://www.coursera.org/course/gamification (Gamification) and put it
>>>> on the shelf for now? Clearly building a distributed economy is a massive
>>>> undertaking, and these things could certainly come into play. Money, or at
>>>> least some record of exchange, appears to be a very important part. Knowing
>>>> this to build something may not be necessary.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to commit more time to this, and obviously I have to focus in
>>>> order to do that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Creating a usable barter system also requires actions be accompolished
>>>>> *early* in time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is my vision of such a system:
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, this requires something I call either a "Production
>>>>> Arena", or (less often) a "Vertically Integrated Permaculture Mosaic".
>>>>>
>>>>> The Production Arena (or VIPM) is the interlocking Physical Sources
>>>>> such as land and water rights and plants and animals and tools and other
>>>>> things needed to create a "Basic Outcome" for all the participants.
>>>>>
>>>>> And so we attract middle-to-upper-income investors to supply the money
>>>>> to buy these Physical Sources for an advertised return of organic goods and
>>>>> services in the future - though they will actually be receiving
>>>>> co-ownership in the Production Arena, and receiving the goods and services
>>>>> as a 'side-effect' of that co-ownership.  In this way we eliminate the
>>>>> buying and selling of those goods and services.
>>>>>
>>>>> And we must also attract middle-to-lower-income investors to
>>>>> cross-commit their *future* labor in return for co-ownership in the
>>>>> Production Arena.
>>>>>
>>>>> By "cross-commit" I mean each worker will promise to work in a
>>>>> specific part of the Production Arena (say milking cows) in return for
>>>>> receiving co-ownership in many other parts of the Production Arena needed
>>>>> to supply him with all of his basic needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to refine how I explain this, because there is a bit more to it
>>>>> that I did not include in the above...
>>>>>
>>>>> Each investors (whether committing money or future labor) will usually
>>>>> receive a 'bundle' of property-rights *and* commitments from others to
>>>>> perform the future labor necessary to accomplish that production.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, the cow-milker would usually receive both ownership in
>>>>> the dentist office *and* commitments from the dentist to fix his teeth in
>>>>> the future when necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> When used in conjunction these commitments create the kind of security
>>>>> that insurance pretends to deliver.  I sometimes call it "life assurance".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brent Shambaugh
>>>>
>>>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>>>> how to build better economies.
>>>>  Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brent Shambaugh
>>>
>>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>>> how to build better economies.
>>> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brent Shambaugh
>>
>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>> how to build better economies.
>> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Brent Shambaugh
>
> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
> how to build better economies.
> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>



-- 
Brent Shambaugh

I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching how
to build better economies.
Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com