Re: 'getting ball rolling' here =)

Hi Pavlik,

This sounds great...
Working on new economic models seems to be a hot topic right now, I'm sure
quite a lot of projects are already working on such things.
I know you have many thoughts about this, and your Polyeconomy page is very
inspiring!
Even the World Economic Forum has called their meeting "Shaping New Models"
this year.
This also seems relevant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_peer-to-peer_processes#P2P_economic_system

I have also recently come across a (serverless) mobile app called
ShareShelf, which gives you an "inventory", and you can track who you give
things to, and who you get things from:
http://tangledwebcommunications.com/products/shareshelf/

Yes I have been working on VRM-related things, but haven't really built a
wishlist or anything like that.
VRM is basically about emancipating the customer in the traditional
customer/vendor relationship.
Control over your data is one aspect of that, i.e. you manage your
relations to your vendors, rather than them managing their relations to you.
Another aspect of VRM is personal Requests-For-Proposal (pRFP), which I
think is exactly what you call "wishes":
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Personal_RFP

In fact, on the VRM list we have discussed using GoodRelations to express
these wishes several times, e.g. here's an older thread.
https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/lists/arc/projectvrm/2010-11/msg00009.html

Anyway, I'd love to collaborate with this effort, maybe we can put together
a demo or something.
Maybe with a set of FreedomBox'es that talk to each other and discover each
other's wishes and offers :)

Markus
-- 
Project Danube: http://projectdanube.org
European Peace University: http://www.epu.ac.at

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:29 AM, elf Pavlik <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>wrote:

> Excerpts from Melvin Carvalho's message of 2012-02-06 22:16:05 +0000:
> > On 6 February 2012 22:02, elf Pavlik <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
> wrote:
> <snip />
> > > So as a first challenge I would like to take coming up with
> recommendation on how to publish personal list of wishes/offers including
> various resources and services. Next step I would see to have possibility
> for each of items on such list, to state which 'accounting systems' you
> stay open to use for transaction.
> >
> > I think a great way to publish offers is using the goodrelations markup:
> >
> > http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/
>
> ok, looks interesting. two questions pop up:
> * how to describe wishes?
>  someone on public-vocabs were suggesting 'demands' in this thread:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2012Jan/0012.html
> * at first glance goodrelations makes assumption of using an accounting
> system of 'mainstream/state money', any suggestions how to approach listing
> multiple 'accounting systems' per offering/wish, where 'mainstream money'
> would act just as one of many avialable options (including non monetary
> services like ones based on 'social karma', 'shared benefit' etc.)?
>
> @Melvin, great thanks for sharing your expertise!
>
> @Marcus in your 'Personal Data Store' where you implement 'Vendor
> Relationship Management', do you have any notion of a wishlist? BTW looking
> at VRM wiki http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Main_Page it looks
> like folks from  http://unhosted.org do something similar in the field of
> web services...
>
> =)
> ~ elf pavlik ~
> --
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