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Re: Does placeholder text in form fields need to meet 1.4.3? ( LC-2944)

From: <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:53:11 +0000
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To: Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com>
Cc: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org
 Dear Glenda Sims ,

The Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group has reviewed the
comments you sent [1] on the Last Call Working Draft [2] of the
Understanding WCAG 2.0 (Public Review Draft) published on 24 Jul 2014.
Thank you for having taken the time to review the document and to send us

The Working Group's response to your comment is included below.

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Michael Cooper
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 1. http://www.w3.org/mid/E1X7PKS-0004G2-Ap@shauna.w3.org
 2. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2014/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20140724/


Your comment on Visual Presentation: Understanding Success Criterion 1.4.3:
> Summary of Issue: Does placeholder text in form fields need to meet
> 1.4.3?
> Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
> We are having a debate (within Deque and with a client) on the color
> contrast of placeholder text. The default color of placeholder text in
> browsers does not meet the 4.5 to 1 color contrast requirement.  At
> Deque, we consider placeholder text to be instructions (valuable
> information) and so we have been calling a violation on placeholder text
> that isn't 4.5 to 1 (assuming it isn't large).  I see a great article by
> Steve Faulkner on this very subject at
>   Now, the big question is, what do you say?  Is color contrast of 4.5
> to 1 required on regular size placeholder text to meet WCAG 2.0 SC
> 1.4.3?
> Proposed Change:
> Whatever you decide, could you add some notes to
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20140408/G148 so that in the
> future we will have more than just this question/answer to refer to? 
> Merci!

Working Group Resolution (LC-2944):
Thank you for your question.  

The minimum contrast success crition (1.4.3) applies to text in the page,
and placeholder text is text in the page.  If used, placeholder text needs
to provide sufficient contrast in order to avoid a 1.4.3 failure.

We have also added a note to the Understanding 1.4.3 document to this

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